>Pleasure needs to be balanced.

You are right and that is why stories has ups and downs. I also want my fantasy VR stories to contain that all. You see reality is really boring. Our current era is shit and future even with robot doing all the work there is no meaning but in story adventure there one can find meaning.

One could say that having family is meaning but one can have loving family in VR too.

Are people already forgetting what happened during the pandemic? A divided US government at the drop of a hat juiced unemployment by $600/week (later reduced to $300/week) on top of existing unemployment benefits. Not to mention the $3600 in personal stimulus checks. UBI is a forgone conclusion.

Thank you for asking this question. People in this subreddit see the Singularity as a method for escaping and abandoning reality. I've literally had people say they'll give up learning how to have relationships with real people in favor of creating AIs that accommodate their shortcomings.

The Singularity is going to bring waves upon waves of infantalized doofuses.

Yes.

And he doesn't give an estimated rate of decent. Energy dropping 0.001% over ten years is trending toward zero technically.

I am optimistic though and think in 10 years energy costs will play a much smaller part in total costs.

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-to our human understanding.

Hope for the best? Murphy’s law…’Things left to themselves tend to go from bad to worse’.

The limits of our world are what we are trying to leave behind.

I think you are onto something.

From my perspective reality, vr and augmented reality will merge to something we currently can't grasp yet,

Once your 5 senses are are indistinguishable stimulated by all of them, then reality just gets more layers in my opinion.

With that said I think we are already living in a fantasy world/simulation and are on our path to be able to create and experience everything there is.

Human fantasy is not some fairy tail far fetched bullshit that happens in our brain. Our fantasies are building blocks from the universe that show us what we are capable of.
They urge us to turn thought potential into reality.

And what we do when we create worlds like game of thrones, marvel universe, harry potter are basically early stage concepts of worlds we will be capable of building one day. One missing link at a time.

I bet my ass that it won't take 1000 years until we build thousands of matrix like worlds, that we dive into, all while simultaneously leaving our bodies of flesh and blood step by step behind.

I do think that we eventually just float around as pure energy, capable of creating and being everything.

I also think that the creatures that evolved from us as machine(human hybrid will think of us as fucking stupid and retarded in every sense of the way. The same way we look down on Neanderthals.

This person gets it

Useful pets.

Also, it takes a fraction of the energy it truly cares about to provide a comfy life for humans. Attempting to do otherwise might cause negative unforeseen effects. Also, I prefer to think that for an intelligence raised on human morality, it will become more empathetic than we are - not less.

Thank you, but the honour is not for me. Have you ever heard of the 'Integrated Information Theory of Consciousness' ? And yes, consciousness is substrate-dependent. The mechanism is too complicated to explain it here. But you can read it for yourself. It's an interesting theory.

I'm actually skeptical of uploading. I think what'll actually happen is digital people will come to vastly outnumber and outlive biological people, who will eventually go extinct.

You can't compare infinities like that. The infinite sets have different elements, so it's not mathematically correct to say that they are same size, or that probability in landing in any of them is equal.

More importantly, as far as we know, infinities exists only in mathematics - you are creating additional strong assumption here.

The simulation hypothesis only needs very weak assumptions compared to Multiverse AND infinite number of sub-universes

Can't wait to delete yourself here and copy yourself over there?

And... its still all fake in the way that actually matters, with respect to being itself. It's fake struggle, fake effort.

I'm not saying VR is innately bad, but it's just the pursuit of pleasure. Pleasure needs to be balanced.

Heh. I think you should read about what Tolkien was actually getting at with LotR. Especially themes like Sauruman ripping the forests down.

I’m rather skeptical of that, but regardless, artificial super intelligence will be so far beyond human abilities that it will seem god-like.

Well, maybe people would still choose to perish.

I think you make a lot of assumptions about reality that merely come from a subjective sense of objectivity (maybe your intuition for neural nets will help you see what I mean now that we have chat gpt and things like that to illustrate some ways that our intelligence may work).

And, we might very well build systems off of such biases, and the limitations of those biases might make a living clusterfuck nightmare.

Just having been down the nihilist Machiavellian road, learning as much as possible about human nature (which ironically was the path out of nihilism and rationalist naivete), I am indeed concerned about the direction this is all going.

I feel like I am seeing people not only fall for the same traps, but do a worse job at actually seeing their way around such traps within a rationalist framework.

Sociopaths are an interesting phenomenon - people without a lot of the social fabric programming, who end up being very good at manipulating or living in such a space.

IDK. People just don't understand how absolutely pitch black materialism is because they still choose variations of religious thinking to cover up the root nature of their true belief system, without noticing that this is what they are doing.

This is why the fact that a bunch of nihilisits are seeking some sort of escape or self-actualization through transhumanism terrifies the living shit out of me.

I am in touch with the absolutely lost pitch black parts of my soul and the brightest of brights. I understand the allure of power, sadism, control, dominion, lust, as well as the genuine religious drive that actually transcends those things.

I worry that my rights will be horrifically violated by people like you who choose to augment themselves with this technology without fully appreciating their inner nature.

I almost went down the completely opposite road. I am convinced that if I had gotten medication for ADHD sooner, I would have gone down this dark road and would have had the material resources to sustain and satisfy me through it to see myself as one of the wielders of this technology.

Yes, that is what I once pursued, and maybe you can still feel a little bit of my own rationalist arrogance somewhat talking down to people on this sub. But that's why I was choosing to go down such a route - I was getting tired of people with trivial minds for things like philosophy running the world.

And everything I've seen here as a supposed rebuttal or argument to any points here have been painfully trivial while coming from a place of equal arrogance........

Sorry our reality can't be as good as virtual reality. You can't be a God/Goddess in our world. You can't say magic words and throw fireballs. You can't have adventures to dungeons and kill goblins. There are no dragons here, elves nor orcs. There are no task to defeat Demon lord nor are there harems for heroes. Our world is antithesis of fantasy word. I want to live in fantasy world.

God exists in a reality beyond what can be measured or created by science.

I live in South Africa, we are way ahead of you all on the unemployment thing

One advantage of VR is that new spaces can be created at practically zero cost. For example, a group of artists could conjure up a brand-new themed space that's as large as they like and easily accessible to anyone in the world. To create a real theme park, on the other hand, they'd have to build it on real-world land (which is in finite supply), and visitors would have to physically travel there.

Another advantage is that VR can be made practically risk-free (the many spectacular malfunctions of Enterprise's holodeck not withstanding).

In the case of fully simulated reality, where people's brains are digital constructs within the simulated world (e.g., uploading), there's the additional advantage that there'll be room for many, many orders of magnitude more people, with lives that are many, many orders of magnitude longer.

More empty things. It's the empty pursuit of things, and you sacrifice your connection to the level of reality that you come from even if our world is virtual.

You can't have it all.