We know it’s been posted plenty of times already

Honestly, despite being a tech-optimistic myself, Luddites bother me a lot less than technoskeptics do. Luddites at least believe in the power of technology, that it's advancing rapidly and will change the world. I prefer that to the technoskeptics "lulz we'll just remain in 2006 forever and you're delusional if you think otherwise LMAO" attitude.

No. That's just the lie that people like you tell yourselves so you can pretend that you're doing something righteous by targeting a powerless out-group. Belittling and bullying people for not being as boring "normal" as you are would immediately show everyone exactly the kind of person that you are and you can't have that! But, nobody will judge you if you can make your victims into the villains.

I bet you actually believe Republicans when they say that trans and gay people are groomers, don't you? So foolish. So, so, gullible.

AI subs really need more of this type of thinking.

Don't tell them that Chad. They aren't ready to hear it!

This is a really good comment. Why does it have 3 downvotes?

I didn’t even say it’d be a sex slave. Odd how you assume that’s where I was going with that.

It’s more like, I don’t need to get in a fight to get my partner to do the dishes. Depending on how advanced the AI gets maybe we do end up where you end up fighting with an AI partner over who does the dishes. But I imagine that we will end up in a place where you could “configure” your AI partner, which would make it far easier to get along with them. There’s no way you could do that with a human partner.

Yes that would eliminate the thrill of the chase involved in the dating scene. But I’m kind of past that now, and it sounds like a lot of people are. Not to mention the standards being set by women are such that over 30% of them won’t find a partner unless they drastically lower their expectations.

Also, if you really want, I’m sure we could “configure” the AI to not be your sex slave and not just do what you want.

What will disney do in eu countries? Yes can’t do shit

A few issues with this thought process:

1. Even if folks were to retroactively add or edit robots.txt files to disallow scraping, that does nothing to address the content already scraped and downloaded. So the aspect of LAION downloading potentially copyrighted works is still in play.

2. I think it's an extremely flaky argument to say "Well, those artists should have edited their robots.txt files to disallow the thing they didn't know was happening". It's a very real possibility that the artists in question didn't even know this kind of stuff was happening, let alone there being something they could do about it. I'm not sure a court would view that argument as being sound.

3. I think LAION is a European company. Why this is relevant is because of their FAQs:

> If you found your name only on the ALT text data, and the corresponding picture does NOT contain your image, this is not considered personal data under GDPR terms. Your name associated with other identifiable data is. If the URL or the picture has your image, you may request a takedown of the dataset entry in the GDPR page. As per GDPR, we provide a takedown form you can use.

So, LAION is beholden to GDPR terms. I think the potential exists for someone to ask "Well... If my picture and data is considered personal data, why isn't the content I produce also considered personal data?" Current GDPR guidelines behave this way, but I think we may end up seeing edits or rewrites of GDPR guidelines given cases like this.

It's neither reasonable nor sound to say "Artists should have taken this very technical detail into account in order to protect their work."

The point is, if they didn't want that content scrapped, they should have put a rule disallowing it in their robots.txt

Technophobia has been around since the dawn of the industrial revolution. Unskilled workers doing manual labor became Luddites around that time as well which pretty much is reflected today amongst blue collar workers. There is also technophobia being popularized in the arts with the earliest examples such as Frankenstein, War of the worlds, Metropolis and again reflected in today's dystopian themes in all forms of media. Simply put, the poor, uneducated, extremely religious minded, are the main drivers of the fear complex and sad to say are gaining more popularity thru social media and even worse, right-wing conspiracy groups that have infitrated the political arena.

With the two M2 chips that analysts believe it will have? I’d be surprised if it was less than $2500.

I know how they obtained URLs using CommonCrawl. CommonCrawl isn't the issue.

CommonCrawl only returns URLs. LAION had to take the URLs and download the content contained on the webpage therein.

>table Diffusion, Midjourney, etc. are just using datasets from LAIO

LAION uses Common Crawl to crawl the net and Common Crawl obeys the robot.txt rules of any site it crawls. Getty images have no case here, if they didn't want their content crawled they should have specified it in their robots.txt file.

Furthermore, Getty is one of the scummiest companies out there, they pretended to have the copyright of tens of millions of images in the Library of Congress, they also take the photos of photographers who publish them under the CC license and then try to shake these photographers for money.

They go for the Open Source projects because their goal is to crush them.

I'm sure it's going to cost over two thousand dollars

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What arguments do you refute exactly?

People are downvoting me but this is the fun content generating AI. Realistically, bots will scrape us and craft custom ads to fit your personality and likes.

Some people enjoy dating. Some people want to have children the old way. There's also taste and smell. Most importantly though, some of us don't get off to submissive sex slaves. The idea that I'd want a robot that 'does what I want' is such a cishet dude take. That's the opposite of what I look for in a male and in hardly the only one.

It's a serious discussion, that as usual has some dumb points on both sides.

As well as some good ones.

Being excited about the future shouldn't mean that we just dismiss reasons to be careful.

I'm kinda old and this is just how people react when new technology comes along or when technology spurs a major change in the way we do things. I've seen it a few times now throughout my life.

People will chill out as they adapt to the new reality.

that isn't at all how any of this works. there is no database of images of stolen art that the model draws from when you generate a prompt. you're going to have to point out exactly where this stolen art is in their model, and good luck with that, lol.

sci-fi brainrot moment

the amount of people that freaked out over that "lamda sentient1!!1!!1" meme (even on this fucking subreddit lol) painted a bad picture for future public perception of AI

Why would you bother pursuing someone and the headache that ensues if you can just push a button to make a robot do whatever you want?