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OldWorldRevival t1_j4s29zc wrote

"Forward thinkers" will be duped by these tools... like moths to a flame... useful fools.

The brightest of minds take great caution, Stephen Hawking among them. The seek out specifics, nuances and details.

The AI can just as easily be used for power and control. The first step is to addict and lure, create dependency. In a way, this part may already be done.

Google, Microsoft, untouchable giants, providing things no others can provide in the same way.

Also the ones developing this tech. We already have seen the deranged power of media unchecked.

Then, how powerful should a controller of these tools be, able to touch all industry?

I am not optimistic, not at all.

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AsheyDS t1_j4rysoq wrote

In the US, there's already this.. https://seedfund.nsf.gov/

Not the easiest thing to get into though, and still capitalist-minded. And actually it's easier to start and maintain a for-profit company for research than it is a non-profit organization, so if you're going to have a for-profit company anyway then you might as well seek a variety of funding sources, which do include strings attached leading to monetization. It's just how the system is unfortunately...

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ohimjustakid t1_j4rxwe1 wrote

>Remember how we had the 3D printing hype and everyone on Reddit was saying that in 5 to 10 years everyone was printing all their plates and cups.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/3d-printed-guns-canada-increase-1.6708049 Yea not like we have literal warehouses full of 3D printed gun parts with ability to print receivers with metallic plastics. Even then the plastic receivers can literally pump out thousands of rounds until they begin cracking. Not like any legit revolutionary movement could use that though, let alone criminals!

It's not like China happens to have 1/3 of the AI companies in the world and is set on their 2030 goal. 2024 being the 75th anniversary of the PLA in time with US presidential election that is bound to be the most polarizing year yet, which is cool cause its not like foreign enemies take advantage of this polarization for their own autocratic means.

Nor are there complete rogue states like North Korea or Iran who have in the past spent millions on counterfeit production, nuclear weapons and cyber attacks.

It's not like the Manhattan Project was so top secret that not even the US Congress knew about it until the bombs dropped.

AI and ML is just like NFTs, sure it gets a lot of traction now but it's not like it can be used for practically any industry, let alone big corps like Amazon, Tesla, Microsoft who just value their human labor WAY more than cheap, efficient computer automation!

We all should fully expect an AI winter because this shit is just so gimicky and its not like the entire globe is getting in on the tech to keep up with an ever expanding field of cybercrime!

Too bad there isn't a way to learn all this stuff for free before making an informed opinion on the carrier pigeon service we're using... OH WAIT

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AsheyDS t1_j4rwgmy wrote

>Yes, essentially. The data gets synthesized and we have the ability to mix and match, to an extent. We have the ability to recognize patterns and apply concepts across domains.

Amazing how you just casually gloss over some of the most complex and difficult-to-replicate aspects of our cognition. I guess transfer learning is no big deal now?

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Bakoro t1_j4rqxyi wrote

>Sure we can have AI listen, read, write, speak, move, and see for some definition of these words. But is that what a brain is about? Learn from lots of data and reproduce that?

Yes, essentially. The data gets synthesized and we have the ability to mix and match, to an extent. We have the ability to recognize patterns and apply concepts across domains.

>And imitation learning is not enough either.

If you think modern AI is just "imitation", you're really not understanding how it works. It's not just copy and paste, it's identifying and classifying the root process, rules, similarities... The very core of "understanding".

Maybe you could never learn from just watching, but an AI can and does. AI already surpasses humans in a dozen different ways. AI has already contributed to the body of academic knowledge. Even without general intelligence, there has been a level of domain mastery that most humans could never hope to achieve.

Letting AI "explore the world" is just letting it have more data.

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Bakoro t1_j4rnua3 wrote

As I said, perhaps there could be more efficient ways to make a brain. Evolution is unlikely to do it for us in any appreciable amount of time. Maybe direct genetic manipulation could, but that's a technique that would serve future generations.

The people with hydrocephalus, and people with brain damage who end up more or less functional, are benefitting from that brain plasticity that I was talking about. Different parts of the brain picking up the slack. Hydrocephalus is also often associated with behavioral and emotional problems, so it's not like a perfect compensation.

I'm not arguing that there is no possible alternative, only that, things stand now, artificial expansion of the brain is the most likely way increase human cognitive ability of existing humans.

If someone comes up with a way to make a human with 50x neuron density, I'm happy to be the experimental papa to that kid.

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