Recent comments in /f/singularity

SalsaEverywhere t1_j4j6okc wrote

This is a good lesson for a lot of young people entering the job force or deciding what to do with their lives.

If the singularity does take place then ALL jobs will be disrupted in a relatively short period of time. The plumbers and carpenters of the world will be safe until, of course, a super intelligence figures out a way to replace them too. You're only hope if that an intelligence smarter than any human that's ever lived, works 24/7 with no breaks and thinks near the speed of light simply fails to figure out near flawless human level robotics.

The solution? Just do what you enjoy doing right now. If the singularity doesn't happen then you're golden and if it does then we're all in this together for better or worse and worrying just means you suffer twice.

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2bdb2 t1_j4j3pep wrote

> DeepMind's AlphaCode can certainly code better than ever most median quality developers.

AlphaCode does well at solving quiz questions. From my own experience with those types of quizzes, they're mostly just maths questions solved with code.

Doing well at those types of questions has very little bearing on most real world software engineering.

Now to be fair, machine learning is a lot more math focused than typical software engineering. But if we're going with the assertion that "AlphaCode can certainly code better than ever most median quality developers" based on doing well at quiz questions, then I'm going to disagree.

> So let's rephrase the question to focus on AlphaCode instead of ChatGPT. > How does that change your response, if at all?

Not Really.

Don't get me wrong, AlphaCode is still mind blowing. I really don't want to understate how impressive it is. But I don't think it's at the level of being able to implement itself. Yet.

(Disclaimer: I am not an AI researcher, so take my opinion with a grain of salt).

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billbot77 t1_j4j2kk9 wrote

We're already merged in the sense that we delegate a lot of our thinking to machines. We don't memorise details any more as we know they are at our fingertips. Instead we optimise our thinking and memory around the services provided by technology.

IMO, the physical integration will advance in line with the removal of the mouse as a peripheral - combination of brainwave interface and ai motion tracking will change how we interact with computers and this will open the door direct synaptic stimulation, essentially putting google into our cognitive reach without a screen. From here conscious and even subconscious processes may be delegated to the cloud.

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alexiuss t1_j4j0fao wrote

What void? Transhumanism is improving your life with tools (Ais).

What void are you filling when you use a power drill to make holes in a wall instead of say using a sharp stick to do it? What void are you filling when you drive a car instead of walking? What void do you fill when you draw with a pencil instead of your fingers?

This question implies an assumption that there's some sort of void whereas in reality people just want to have nicer, easier lives with less: misery, suffering, pain and death.

Your other point is just as vapid of reason and rationality.

Even if my IQ was 10k I would still like the same things - creating worlds. I would just create more complex worlds if I had more IQ.

Problem solving might have a hard limit, building and enjoying virtual and physical worlds does not.

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Uranusistormy t1_j4iye6l wrote

Not coherent? Nah you just can't read or perhaps English just isn't your native. And did you look at how you spoke or your own analogies? Idiots like you who can't reason or admit they are wrong or resort to ad hominem attack when in a debate hold back scientific progress. Let's hope you never try to publish research cuz I can bet you'd resort to character assassinations and smear campaigns when your papers don't pass peer review. Just stick to bench work. 👍

I'm embarrassing myself.......on reddit......where users are anonymous........ah boy.

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Offgr1d-DIY t1_j4ivxze wrote

Hey Cyber - I think your missing the point of empathy. Explain where your enjoyment of “being alive” would be if everything was worth nothing as it’s replaceable by technology and the perception for “experience” does not exist in a meaningful way outside of the realm of time and space…

But maybe your right on one note - no point in trying to see the point of view of “the Ant” as you state if you can’t see the frailty and preciousness of life itself.

..:: End of Line ::..

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[deleted] t1_j4ivvmq wrote

Lol at the dumbfuckery. Your last paragraph is not even coherent. You’re embarrassing yourself, and I’m not going to explain the difference between a stock and a flow a sixth time.

Others can read and understand the explanations I gave. They’re trivially simple. You’re just a moron who got called out and is now doubling down on everything you didn’t understand the first five times around. Your blather about internal cellular processes shows you don’t have any clue what level of analysis is even relevant.

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CyberAchilles t1_j4ismbm wrote

What quality? The human body is so fragile in every way that even the smallest of organisms can kill us. A simple cut could turn into something very deadly.

Do you honestly think an ASI would not design a form better than the human body? One that is more adaptive and better suited to the environment than the human? And what makes you think the ASI would need human structures or human traits?

At this point, if we are going to make the ASI human, might as well just keep having babies. There is absolutely no need and benefit to adapting AI to be human other than ego.

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arKowboy t1_j4irzdn wrote

btw agi merging with us is in line with how our brains currently work. Your "higher level" thinking is a slave to your "reptile" thinking. You spend massive amounts of intellectual resources to keep your reptile brain happy and in some sense thats all you really want to do.

Feeling hungry, aroused, bored? Its your higher intellects job to keep these parts of your brain happy and thats basically all it does. It would be agis job to keep your "higher level" thinking happy and likely agi will get relief from keeping you happy.

Of course i'm assuming the agi is trapped and intertwined with your current brain. This kind of agi while sentient is a bit different from agi outside of the body in that your personality is completely tied to it.

If this is the kind of merge youre looking for it will likely take a very long time. You'd be essentially implanting a computer strong enough to run an agi along side your brain which means it would ideally be a pretty small device.

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SoylentRox t1_j4ir95t wrote

>I don't think I'll see it in my lifetime if Singularity is what you mean by "merging"

Let's assume you are 35. You have about 45-65 years of lifetime left if there are zero improvements made in treatments for aging over the next 45-65 years.

You don't believe the singularity will happen in that time interval? That's 2069-2089 before you croak, again, assuming nothing that slows down aging in rats right now can work on humans.

There are multiple therapies. yamaka factors, metformin + sirolimus, others. Adding 50% more to rat lifespan isn't uncommon, which would give you another 40 years. So if any of these treatments work, or we ask AI to look at our proteins and what is failing as we age and devise a treatment, but that also fails (even though AI can already do most of this today), you are saying no singularity in about 100 years.

And if you get any of the treatments to work, maybe during that time period someone will use stem cell therapies on your weakest organs - bone marrow, heart, and brain - and add another 40 years during which...

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Offgr1d-DIY t1_j4iqqpy wrote

It’s not about “better” or “faster” it’s about the quality of the “physical” experience the human body has been designed for. Our sensitivity to our environment and surrounding is top notch - let alone the social aspect we have being physically around another human or other “life” in general.

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