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CubeFlipper t1_j4chf4j wrote
Reply to comment by GayHitIer in Does anyone else get the feeling that, once true AGI is achieved, most people will act like it was the unsurprising and inevitable outcome that they expected? by oddlyspecificnumber7
>Though nobody knows how to reach/make an agi/asi.
I don't think this is entirely true. Nobody can guarantee anything, sure, but OpenAI for example seems pretty confident they know where to put their efforts. Given their track record and explanations of their intuition, I believe them.
arckeid t1_j4cf42q wrote
Reply to comment by questionasker577 in Does anyone else get the feeling that, once true AGI is achieved, most people will act like it was the unsurprising and inevitable outcome that they expected? by oddlyspecificnumber7
Smartphones are a huge thing too that have a big impact in us, and it's pretty normalized, nobody imagined that we would be able to carry a pc on the pocket, if we go for soft takeout people probably will get their AI companion on their smartphones and little by little but fast society will change for the better or for worse.
TheSecretAgenda t1_j4ceo3j wrote
Reply to comment by Evilsushione in Does anyone else get the feeling that, once true AGI is achieved, most people will act like it was the unsurprising and inevitable outcome that they expected? by oddlyspecificnumber7
Mamon is our god. If it reduces costs and increases profit it will be done.
Azecap t1_j4cdm78 wrote
Reply to comment by banuk_sickness_eater in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb
Being a professor certainly seems respectable from the outside, but the universities are full of them nonetheless, and among peers the title is worth less.
He has built a career on sensational (irreproducible) findings, overinterpretation and exaggeration.
Here's your link for proof. I know of few researchers who have been called out in such a fashion.
Azecap t1_j4caazq wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb
Cell is certainly quite prestigious, but as I'm sure you are aware from your own field, the prestigious journals are more interested in sensational findings than in scientific rigor and reproducibility. Moreover, the peer review will depend on the specific reviewers and there's quite a bit of backclapping going on in this particular field of research.
That said, I cannot speak to this particular study, as I have not yet read it myself.
virgilash t1_j4ca0g7 wrote
Reply to Does anyone else get the feeling that, once true AGI is achieved, most people will act like it was the unsurprising and inevitable outcome that they expected? by oddlyspecificnumber7
Food 4 thought: once real AGI is achieved and once I will be allowed to get in touch with it, I am not going to spend any time on sites like reddit, twitter, facebook, Instagram, netflix or anything like this... And I suppose countless other people will do the same... 🤣
oddlyspecificnumber7 OP t1_j4ca000 wrote
Reply to comment by Evilsushione in Does anyone else get the feeling that, once true AGI is achieved, most people will act like it was the unsurprising and inevitable outcome that they expected? by oddlyspecificnumber7
I totally agree regarding the mind. Unless the mind is truly just magic, it can be emulated.
The kind of AI I am starting to favor as one of the safer types would be a collective super-intelligence made up of many, specialized, subhuman AI models working together using language as a universal medium. That way we can literally read its thoughts at all times and all of the human level complexity happens in the open.
It would be smarter than its constituent AI models the way that a research team is smarter than a single researcher.
tatleoat t1_j4c902l wrote
Reply to comment by Inevitable_Snow_8240 in "Community" Prediction for General A.I continues to drop. by 420BigDawg_
What bubble I agree with you lol
Inevitable_Snow_8240 t1_j4c7955 wrote
Reply to comment by tatleoat in "Community" Prediction for General A.I continues to drop. by 420BigDawg_
Musk is a complete moron, sorry to bust your bubble.
Inevitable_Snow_8240 t1_j4c61dq wrote
Reply to comment by Schyte96 in Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed
Massively? Not at all.
ElvinRath t1_j4c3qvz wrote
Reply to Does anyone else get the feeling that, once true AGI is achieved, most people will act like it was the unsurprising and inevitable outcome that they expected? by oddlyspecificnumber7
That's hardly surprising.
When things happend they usually become far less impressive.
Anyway I think that your approach here is not correct. we are not one or two generations away from AI doing original research, or at least, we don't know that.
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It might happend, it might not.
About 8 years ago we thought that we would have full autonomous vehicles in 1-3 years max, and art in a hundred years, maybe.
And here we are.
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We are quite bad at reading the future. And by me, I don't mean us on reddit, I also mean the real experts.
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Look, don't get me wrong, I'm optimistic. But there is also a real posibility that 10 years into the future the only thing we have is ChatGPT 5.0, running in your phone, faster and a tiny bit better but basicaly the same.
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That will be of course very useful, but still, having that (A very powerfull AI assistant) and having AGI (Capable of conducting independent research!!!! That if fully working is the path to singularity) is fundamentally differently. And we can't predict those things because they need breakthrough.
DevilsTrigonometry t1_j4c23nb wrote
Reply to comment by tehsilentwarrior in Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed
>If gamers had a choice, they wouldn’t be on Windows anymore
What would we be on? MacOS is hardware-locked, and Linux on the desktop is a fucking nightmare.
Uranusistormy t1_j4c1grs wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb
I don't know anything about him but I studied biochemistry and I'm very interested in thermodynamics. The cell isn't a closed system. This allows it reverse its internal entropy at the expense of increasing entropy in its surroundings with a net increase in entropy of the universe. For example glucose is converted to CO2, an increase in entropy, and this entropy used to provide free energy that the cell uses to repair itself and make proteins. As the cell ages it is less able to do this. We don't know why but it is evidently related to genetics. As this decreased regulation increases the cell is able to function less and less until it dies. Take this and scale it up to a person and it manifests as ageing. You were conflating the person's use of 'getting older' with 'growing up', when they were speaking about getting old.
It's not hard to understand.
Evilsushione t1_j4c19v3 wrote
Reply to Does anyone else get the feeling that, once true AGI is achieved, most people will act like it was the unsurprising and inevitable outcome that they expected? by oddlyspecificnumber7
My position has always been that if we can do it with the mind, there is no reason it can't be done programmatically. I don't think we should pursue true sentient Ai though, that would be too unpredictable. Unfortunately that is probably the key to.unlocking next level Ai and they will do it anyway.
GayHitIer t1_j4c07n4 wrote
Reply to Does anyone else get the feeling that, once true AGI is achieved, most people will act like it was the unsurprising and inevitable outcome that they expected? by oddlyspecificnumber7
We really don't know, but with the latest results I would think it will happen sooner than later.
Though nobody knows how to reach/make an agi/asi.
My prediction is anywhere from 2023 to 2029.
But it might happen sooner than that.
I hope Ray Kurzweil stands correct.
questionasker577 t1_j4bzz0r wrote
Reply to Does anyone else get the feeling that, once true AGI is achieved, most people will act like it was the unsurprising and inevitable outcome that they expected? by oddlyspecificnumber7
Humans tend to be more reactive than proactive, but with the advent of more and more powerful technologies, there are greater implications to being like this.
Think about social media and how much of an impact it has had on society! Then consider something far, far more powerful such as AI.
banuk_sickness_eater t1_j4bv2he wrote
Reply to comment by Azecap in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb
Not well respected he's a Professor in the Department of Genetics and co-Director of the Paul F. Glenn Center for Biology of Aging Research at Harvard Medical School. He's literally at the pinnacle of his field. Show me evidence of his derision amoungst his fellow researchers.
[deleted] t1_j4bskx9 wrote
Reply to comment by Uranusistormy in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb
Again, fundamental misunderstanding that conflates two distinct processes.
Entropy increases constantly if a system is closed, so exporting it from cells and tissues and whole organisms is the essence of what metabolic upkeep does. It’s called being alive instead of rotting.
Aging is an entirely secondary effect of the upkeep itself. If upkeep were perfect there would be no aging. Organisms would remain functionally identical and unchanged over time. This is easy to achieve with simple machines like cars, and some species come close to achieving it too with “negligible senescence”.
A directly analogous process to aging is growth and development.
Growth and development are functional changes. You can think of them as “better than perfect upkeep” if you like. But conceptually they are not much different than aging: the process of using energy and inputs to power metabolism and export entropy is not perfect, so there is slow drift in the form of the organism m, but this occurs over a much MUCH longer timescale than rotting/decomposing.
Again, think of a car: if you let it sit without putting anything into it at all, it rots. THAT’S the second law, and entropy just increasing unabated. Alternatively, there is maintenance and upkeep that can keep a car in perfect condition forever. But what’s the difference between upkeep and upGRADE? Nothing, as far as entropy goes. Upgrading a car is just using energy and inputs to do a bit more than keep it exactly unchanged.
Don’t just take it from me. Aubrey De Grey is a staunch advocate of my exact position on entropy, because he of course understands it.
duffmanhb OP t1_j4bs6ld wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb
No idea on the specifics but all I got out of it was that it leveraged the same sort of mechanism. I think I recall reading something about using peptides to activate it? I could be wrong.
MercySound t1_j4bs23f wrote
Reply to comment by Sh1ner in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb
>come to your own conclusion like the rest of us do
Pretty sure people that draw their own conclusions based on due diligence research are the minority on the internet, not like "the rest of us".
banuk_sickness_eater t1_j4br6go wrote
Reply to comment by phoenixjazz in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb
Advancements in artificial intelligence will usher in an era of post scarcity, specifically energy post scarcity as companies like Google DeepMind begin to tackle fundamental problems in the realm of fusion.
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duffmanhb OP t1_j4bng11 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb
It uses the same technique used to turn revert normal cells back into their stem cell state. Beyond that, I'm not entirely sure on the details.
SlowCrates t1_j4chlyp wrote
Reply to Realistic humanoid robotic arm that uses artificial muscles has full range of motion and can lift a dumbbell by HumanSeeing
This makes Terminator 2 look horrifically outdated. In that movie, the endoskeleton shows completely mechanical looking parts that supposedly mimic infiltration-level human movements. But this video highlights the fact that in order to create human-like movements, you need human-like parts. And this is clearly just the beginning. 10-15 years from now we're going to see entire synthetic human bodies. It's going to be very interesting.