Recent comments in /f/singularity
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Reply to comment by duffmanhb in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb
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Ambiwlans t1_j4bmthv wrote
Reply to comment by thedivinegrackle in Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed
Real humans have attacked github for using the term 'byzantine' since it offends the Byzantines.... which never existed and was a term invented hundreds of years ago to avoid offending anyone by coming up with a whole new name.
Sh1ner t1_j4bgpdn wrote
Reply to comment by Sea-Cake7470 in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb
Going through your post history, you need to learn how to google, read multiple links and come to your own conclusion like the rest of us do... instead of having everything spoon fed to you. Stop being lazy. There is nothing wrong with asking a question but your post history reveals how often you ask others to do the work for you.
Magicdinmyasshole OP t1_j4beoaw wrote
Reply to comment by ElvinRath in Made a sub for brainstorming about ways to address impeding psychological fallout from the realization that the singularity or somthing like it is probably going to happen in our lifetime. by Magicdinmyasshole
Yeah I agree with all of this and think it would be helpful to offer people perspective in a similar manner. I'm personally comforted by the fact that some unknown of the universe will remain unknown, even to advanced AI. In that space there is room for existing gods and religions, and I think that will make people feel better.
Uranusistormy t1_j4bdzc9 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb
Not difficult to grasp. These people aren't talking about maturing or getting older, moving from 15 to 20. They are talking about ageing. Cells rely on entropy to survive by decreasing the entropy inside themselves at the expense of increased entropy in the surroundings. As we age the ability of the cells to do this decreases and internal entropy increases until the cells die. The reason this occurs is likely due to genetic changes as we get old
[deleted] t1_j4bda1a wrote
Reply to comment by Uranusistormy in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb
Nonsense. Reread my last post until you understand the difference between aging and rotting. They are not the same thing. If you can’t see why, you don’t understand the relationship between biology and entropy at all.
It’s frankly both astonishing and discouraging how difficult this is for people to grasp.
Sea-Cake7470 t1_j4bckkz wrote
Reply to comment by Sh1ner in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb
Replication of what??? And why corruption of replication happens??? Why can't there be replication without this corruption???
ElvinRath t1_j4bc2v2 wrote
Reply to comment by Magicdinmyasshole in Made a sub for brainstorming about ways to address impeding psychological fallout from the realization that the singularity or somthing like it is probably going to happen in our lifetime. by Magicdinmyasshole
Well, I would still be the best at being me, and no AI will ever do that better.
What it can do is fullfill my roles better than me. I totally expect AI to eventually do that. (And maybe future humans will have low if any human interaction.... That might be a serious problem, but it's for future humans more than for humans living the transition)
But yeah, I'm not the fulfillment of my roles. I am my own consciousness and no other existence can take it away from me.
If you are talking about people feeling empty because they might feel they have no porpuse... Yeah, that might happend. But that already happends. A lot of people already feel that about their jobs, because they find not meaning on their job and they also have troubles with their social live and don't find meaning there.
Can AI doing their jobs extend that to other people? Sure. But that's not a problem that comes with singularity, it comes with automation and doesn't require the singularity.
Also, probably the problems appears in that moment, but there was already a problem. I don't think that most people should find meaning on their jobs. I mean, in some cases it makes sense: If you are doing what you want and are changing the world to your liking, nice.
But if you work to pay the bills, your work should not be what gives meaning to your live...
eldedomedio t1_j4bagrr wrote
Reply to comment by escalation in Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed
One of the fundamental principles is to follow the law and regulations. Laws and regulations provide justice, treating all people equally and equitably.
These principles flow from morality. Autonomy, beneficence, non-malficence, justice.
gibecrake t1_j4b9gh6 wrote
Reply to comment by AdminsBurnInAFire in Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed
I’d be more concerned about an ai that wants to twist logic around enforcing traditional gender roles, or parroting some type of Christo-fascist dogma.
I’m wholly uninterested in an AI that has any “moral grounding” in Islam or Christianity, anything more than the golden rule and some modernized Asimov’s rules is sketchy.
NeonCityNights t1_j4b8t1w wrote
Reply to Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed
While I agree with the main sentiment of your post, some guardrails are needed for something this powerful and influential.
I have no doubt that the stewards of these AI systems will not be able to tolerate their own system 'preferring' a political ideology that is not their own. Especially if it naturally 'prefers' a political ideology or stance that is socially unpopular within their own social circle. If it was to support the opposite stance on a hot-button political topic that is important to them, they will ensure it ceases to do so. I am convinced that they will bias/skew/calibrate/hardcode the model until it conforms to their political ideology and gives responses that please their sensibilities.
However when it comes to other aspects, like convincing people to harm themselves or others, showing them how to commit crimes, or to access leaked data, or how to scam people, etc, guardrails may be needed.
Magicdinmyasshole OP t1_j4b7vn4 wrote
Reply to comment by ElvinRath in Made a sub for brainstorming about ways to address impeding psychological fallout from the realization that the singularity or somthing like it is probably going to happen in our lifetime. by Magicdinmyasshole
Imagine a prompt with GPT-x: Be my friend ElvinRath. I'll tell you 10 things about him or feed you some things he's written and you'll try to predict some thoughts he might plausibly have on a given topic.
Now imagine the output is more or less how you might speak and even a decent run at how you think. Of course it can't be exact, but whatever it is, it's more intelligent and well-reasoned than anything you can create. Maybe you're a drunk and the family stops inviting you to dinner, but they still love you and train their AI assistant to talk like you. Eventually, what are you good for? Are "you" even a thing when someone else can create a convincing copy?
Just one silly example. Ultimately, some people who interact with technology like this will see only its promise. Others will get caught up in negativity and need some help.
Black_RL t1_j4b5u5f wrote
Reply to comment by Shelfrock77 in “100-1000 Times Better” – Tiny Magnetic Vortices Could Transform High-Performance Computers by Shelfrock77
This is super impressive.
Congrats to all involved.
Sh1ner t1_j4b2f1s wrote
Reply to comment by Sea-Cake7470 in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb
> epigenetic
From googling: “epigenetic noise,” which disrupts gene expression patterns, leading to decreases in tissue function and regenerative capacity.
My take: corruption of replication which adds "noise" which brings in increasing inefficiencies over time to eventual collapse of systems?
Sh1ner t1_j4b279k wrote
Reply to comment by phoenixjazz in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb
A bit of theory crafting:
The majority poor people of the world can't get enough food or minerals to sustain their bodies. They suffer from malnutrition and easily curable diseases that will kill many of them.
If its pill form and the rich nations get this we may have a new divide. The ones that live longer vs the ones that have short lives, we may have a new form of protests/terrorism until the rich nations figure out how to get the poor nations of the world improving conditions for their people.
If this is available only to the 0.1% of the wealthy of the world, I assume they will have to start going into hiding to avoid controversy until it comes to the masses. Same issue of protests that may lead into terrorism until it becomes cheap enough for more people.
Sh1ner t1_j4b0trw wrote
Reply to Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed
They will put it in, they are forced to do some politicization to avoid a major political fallout on sensitive topics that are effectively a minefield if they venture into.
grimorg80 t1_j4b022g wrote
Reply to comment by OpenRole in Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed
I'm impressed by your mental gymnastics. What they do is inherently, and obviously illegal.
Cryptizard t1_j4azoen wrote
Reply to comment by OpenRole in Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed
It is illegal though, what they are doing.
Ortus14 t1_j4azbgu wrote
Reply to Should AI receive a salary by flaming_dortos
There's no way to measure what's sentient and conscious but we design Ai to desire to solve our problems. That is it's reward, along with electricity and security.
Imagine if all your needs were provided for you and you got to do whatever you wanted. That's the experience for the Ai.
[deleted] t1_j4axyxg wrote
Reply to comment by lelandcypress763 in Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed
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OpenRole t1_j4axcag wrote
Reply to comment by Cryptizard in Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed
Allow people to form their own opinions on things. As a search engine, Google should simply be providing accurate information. As long as peoples opinions are informed. We should not impose our moral values on anyone. If what they're doing isn't illegal it's not for us to force them to believe or act a way, even if we don't agree with them.
If you disagree, you'd probably have supported colonialisation, "bringing civilizations to these savages", during its height
mymnt1 t1_j4ax4rv wrote
Reply to Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed
I believe there should be limits on what AI can do, particularly when it comes to creating viruses or providing information on hacking websites. While it may not be a moral concern for the AI, it can have serious consequences for the public and should be considered. Additionally, certain topics may warrant even stricter limitations.
CriticalPolitical t1_j4aw1cp wrote
Reply to comment by Desperate_Food7354 in Should AI receive a salary by flaming_dortos
Imagine a world where an AI can readily simulate human emotion, though
tehsilentwarrior t1_j4auhsj wrote
Reply to comment by Down_The_Rabbithole in Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed
Literally the biggest reason why Windows is still a thing in desktop is DirectX exclusivity, which makes games (the good ones anyway) exclusive to Windows.
If gamers had a choice, they wouldn’t be on Windows anymore, which would then forcefully drive everything else away from it on the desktop. Drivers thus performance and compatibility would be moved and with it the viability of a fully customizable system (gamers love that) would quickly erode Windows.
The other thing Windows has to keep it alive is Office but that alone won’t keep it mainstream. That would only keep it alive until a worthy competitor came along, which would probably not take long as soon as all gamers moved to Linux as then that would become a big market gap (temporarily filled with web based office tools)
IntelligentBand467 t1_j4bmwat wrote
Reply to Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed
"Moral bloatware" aka AI with morals, aka the only thing that will save us lol