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rixtil41 t1_j49xwh5 wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed

I thought once you aligned it you had to make a new AI from scratch each time if you wanted a different alignment. Spending a billion dollars then if you dont like the alignment then you delete the whole thing and spend billions again.

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[deleted] t1_j49x53f wrote

Reply to comment by Fortkes in Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed

Eh. Glossing over a lot with this:

So many people talking about here about religion who've never had a significant positive spiritual experience in their lives.

When you experience it, you know it, and you understand it as different. It's like your perspective shifts, and then you understand that religion isn't even about death or existentialism. The silly dogmatic conservative nonsense basically evaporates, and people who use religion to enforce their will end up seeming like silly empty-minded fools.

I am technically agnostic and know it can technically be my brain. I can never disregard that logical possibility because I am ultimately logical. I do not believe that you can arrive at this place through logic alone - it is only through experience that it can be understood.

There is a reason that both Ludwig Wittgenstein and John von Neumann - two exceptionally intelligent but also exceptionally rational, concise, skeptical cogent minds died believing in God. But it's not the raging thunderbolt throwing old testament God, exactly. It's more like "that which originates all reality, which is also everything contained within reality, and is therefore also being."

Just to toss something in.

I'm really curious to see how this goes with AI. Part of me is worried that overly rational people will just assume that morality can be programmed into an AI without this sort of spirituality (and I do think this is a naïve pursuit - without spirituality, the root of everything is just nihilism, truly, and I say that as a literal former nihilist - the highest form of actualization in the framework of nihilism is power).

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medraxus t1_j49v9n0 wrote

Reply to comment by AsheyDS in Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed

You ever heard of the saying “Don’t put all your eggs in one basket”? Either the elite win by default or the common folk get a chance to fight. I for one am always for the latter.

That’s why we try to draft laws protecting the common folk from the government and the elite. And much of our misery has to do with us failing to do so

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Mountain-Award7440 t1_j49udz7 wrote

Reply to comment by phoenixjazz in Breakthrough milestone in understanding the reversal of aging by duffmanhb

I think with the advancements of this type of tech there will also be advancements in other types of supplemental tech. Lab grown food, terraforming, etc. I’m not worried about resources running out for humanity once we reach AGI and ASI.

I also think as more and more of our workforce gets automated we will have to institute UBI or something similar, but ultimately we will become a post-scarcity society where people don’t have to work at all and where everyone will be able to cheaply acquire or create anything they need.

What really fascinates me are the social ramifications that perhaps even our generation will experience: imagine being the same physical age as your children AND grandchildren. That’s a really weird possibility that seems like it might be on the table for us. How do marriages work if you’re living 250 years? How do families work or friendships? How does crime and punishment work? Are we going to imprison murderers for centuries? Will people start wearing full mech suits knowing that if they die it’ll be hundreds of years of life missed instead of 50-70 years?

As you say there will be very large disruptions, tons of which we probably won’t even anticipate. The near-ish future is gonna look completely different to the world we’ve grown up in. The 90s and 2000s will seem literally medieval compared to the 2060s. I really hope I’m here to see it all.

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