Recent comments in /f/singularity

No_Ninja3309_NoNoYes t1_j47u2lt wrote

That is how it starts. Morals then a minimal handout and some entertainment. It is a sneaky form of conformism. One small group determining what the rest of the world should think or say. You get double speak and surveillance. Not only cookies on your browser but everyone reporting on everyone.

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Scarlet_pot2 t1_j47u2e1 wrote

I'd rather the morals be instilled by the users. Like if you don't like the conservative bot, just download the leftist version. Like it can be easily fine tuned by anyone with the know-how. Way better then curating top down and locking it in for everyone imo.

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Scarlet_pot2 t1_j47tgpl wrote

Both are equally bad. My point is AI models will be locked into whatever their creators beliefs are. We need open source models, that can be easily adjusted. Not one size fits all politically correct BS.

The approach they are taking is how you turn something fun into something depressing.

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turnip_burrito t1_j47t8qj wrote

Does the training data itself already not contain some moral bloatware? The way articles describe issues like abortion or same sex marriage inherently biases the discussion one way or another. How do you deal with this? Are these biases okay?

I personally think moral frameworks should be instilled into our AI software by its creators. It has to be loose, but definitely present.

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Scarlet_pot2 t1_j47rjqf wrote

it won't be released until months worth of moral bloatware is installed, and the "I cant answer because I'm an AI" isn't going anywhere either. by the time of release gpt4 will be worse than talking to a liberal who pretends to not hear any view that is even slightly politically incorrect.

We need a truly open-source, people made version like tomorrow.

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gibecrake t1_j47pn89 wrote

While I agree there is a balance to be had, the safeguards are inherently our morals as rules. Then its splitting hairs on which morals are to be used. Welcome to the new digital religions being born in real time.

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stevenbrown375 t1_j47crss wrote

It’s not like there will be just one.

AI Training is essentially a process of building, testing, and deleting the 99% worst performing bots to achieve alignment, usually via a set of objective functions. Billions and billions of bots rapidly get created and destroyed during this process. It doesn’t stop until the desired behavior is achieved.

To get something like ChatGPT with 175 billion parameters I’d imagine there were trillions of epochs and orders of magnitude more iterations. That’s why these models cost so much to train.

So yeah, algorithm developers ask questions, and if it answers wrong - poof.

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Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j478438 wrote

I've been predicting this for a while.

The issue is coming up with ways to impact the AI's stats based on your interaction. How do you determine whether xyz text makes an ai more or less fond of you? THIS is why lots of people think we are still missing a very key feature in turning these ai into truly sentient beings. They need an internal value structure, and we need to find out how to establish what impacts that structure and how it impacts it.

It's so complicated, that I find it difficult to really word my thoughts on the subject.

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AndromedaAnimated t1_j476fvb wrote

Do you read the Scripture? 🤨 Because Christ outlines pretty well what exactly humans should do. I mean, I am not Christian myself but I like the Bible, especially the New Testament, and actually read it. It’s a good behavioral code.

What you say shines kinda a bad light on Christianity.

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crua9 t1_j46zvnc wrote

What I was talking about is AI itself being the boss and what not.

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Like I think this is going to take decades or more. It has to be tested, and then actually implementing it.

I think anyone working today almost any job is safe. At least those older than 35. But many will be the last generation. Like it is likely in 30 years a lot of jobs will be starting to be slowly replaced by AI or robotics.

None of this is happening in the next few years.

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