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eziam t1_jcyok5f wrote

Metal detectors is a placebo that will make parents feel better and students feel like they are in prison. Are we putting metal detectors at each doorway? Will windows be sealed shut so students don't bring guns through? How about fields? What prevents a kid coming in at night, hiding a gun in the field then having a shooting spree during outdoor PE or pick it up while doing outdoor PE?

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Soloemilia t1_jcyf4m3 wrote

Totally agree with you on expelling kids. I was furious to learn about the school boards complete lack of respect with regards to the suggestions and referrals from their school based administrators. These principles are telling the school board. Hey, this kid is not safe to have in my building and then something like 70% of the time the school board says to them to hell with all the other kids in the building you were going to take this kid back.

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Asterion7 t1_jcyekbt wrote

I didn't say fuck it. I just said not sure it will be as effective as people want it to be. And could lead to a false sense of security. Not to mention it is disruptive and makes the schools more like a prison. Raising expectations and expelling those who can't behave would do more to improve schools and improve safety then metal detectors which are less effective then you think.

I kind of see them as giving up on kids. Treat people like criminals and they will act like criminals. Maybe I'm hopelessly naive though. Wouldn't be the first time.

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Asterion7 t1_jcycgk8 wrote

Sure but how hard is it to leave a bag outside a different door or window. Or sneak in..or have a friend let you in another door. Or kids passing bags around while stressed out underpaid security guards work the door. I don't think this will be nearly as fool proof as people think. These are big old buildings with lots of moving parts and people.

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Asterion7 t1_jcyb8vz wrote

I don't know.......it makes the schools even more like prisons. Not saying I'm 100% against it, but I certainly don't like it. I also question how effective they really are. It's pretty simple to get something past them in buildings with as many doors and windows as schools if someone is determined.

Feels like security theater to some extent.

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