Some people just want to rage

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https://i.imgur.com/hfBnYMO.jpg it's a referral link right from my account. Posted in a mealkit thread that allows referral links to be shared.

Seriously? Just like me sharing my personal experience of the park. You are really trying to grasp onto nothing here.

You are using one of the worst anti-viruses on the market. Put the URL into something like VirusTotal and it actually scans with 20+ different products. My link shows up completely clean

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/a821a5df4c9d7961e20d186bfdf7c9f32005c4fd075d4083bf81899b27dac7d2

I told myself I wasn't gonna waste my time replying to you. But here I am....you won I guess.

> Unlike many on here, I have thick skin.

Your comments sure don't make it seem like you have thick skin. Look at you in this very thread, trolling through weeks of comments in attempt to dig up some dirt on someone who slightly disagreed with you.

>Breaking the "civility" rule here is a good way to get your comment removed and your point lost.

The civility thing is no big deal. Unlike many on here, I have thick skin.

The perverted username should be the first clue. And if one can get beyond that, the lack of critical thought becomes painfully obvious.

I guess I just don't get how you're coming to that conclusion after looking at the data that disproves it. You're moving the goalposts – saying "American cities are unsafe compared to the rest of the civilized world even though they're getting safer every year" isn't the point at hand. The point is that Providence, specifically, is safer than it's ever been. Violent crime has dropped precipitously for decades. Should we not be happy about that?

> That certainly doesn't help with any credibility issues.

What do you think outright fabrications say about your credibility?

Lolllll this dude using a McAfee browser plug-in, in the year 2023.

At the end of the day, they're beholden to their corporate overlords. There's a whole ecosystem of middle management that cuts stories in the blink of an eye that will fly in the face of corporate spin. So to that end, it's not the journalists' fault that the narratives are being forced on them. But by choosing to be part of that system, you're perpetuating it. It's frustrating that so many well-intentioned, talented people end up in that situation and choose the easy path that directly causes harm because they don't have the gumption to stand up for what's right.

And I'm not saying I'd be any better in their shoes – I didn't go into the field for a reason. But I also don't think they should get a pass.

I'll just opt for the punch rather than trying that crap again.

tell me you don’t know how affiliate links work without telling me you don’t know how affiliate links work.

The fact that it comes from Italy doesn't make it good. Tomato paste on a piece of crust? No thanks!

"Crime is down, so why does it feel like it isn't"

>What does my credibility have to do with my statement.

On a side note, I see that you posted a suspicious link in a mealkits subreddit.

https://i.imgur.com/yXkD28g.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BThUHDv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qmq2ycR.jpg

That certainly doesn't help with any credibility issues.

>All I said was I walk there.

No, that's not all you said. You attempted to mislead a newcomer by suggesting that it's safe to walk through Dexter Park at midnight.

https://www.reddit.com/r/providence/comments/10qedvp/moving_to_providence/

But I'm glad to see that u/Remarkable_Money_369 called you out for your irresponsible comments. Perhaps that person will chime in here.

I learned how to make them. If you ever have made focaccia is basically just doing that but adding a strongly seasoned tomato sauce over the top before you bake it. I won't give away my sauce secrets though.

One of the finest there is. Deliciously oily and little bit spicy.

The motto that many (including myself) have adopted is "Harm Reduction Is Valuable Even When Harm Elimination Is Preferable". I agree that the media is overstating the drop, but this is largely because other media is overstating the problem. It's a reactionary media circlejerk, and it's been that way at least as long as I've been a Providence resident. This is why it's always better to go right to the data and draw your own conclusions, especially in a small and hyperpoliticized city like this one.

I just don’t know how to read situations where journalists write up these fake “studies” like the HonestTea PR stunt where they evaluated the “most honest” cities by leaving a barrel of their product out and asking for people to use the honor system. Or having press releases I’ve sent out personally run word-for-word without a call to me or any other sources (and then I know enough to know when I’m reading a release). Or heck, just a couple of days after BLM RI held a Tyre Nichols vigil, every mainstream local news outlet ran a winking PR stunt story where the Cumberland Police claimed to have arrested Santa Claus and presented “evidence” of his existence.

Every single journalist I’ve ever talked to has said what you wrote about how they’re supposed to do their jobs. And then I see them do these things over and over again. It’s disheartening.

My point is more that the statement in the headline is designed to oversell the relative "increase in safety" for PVD residents over time, and that based on the comments here it seems to probably successfully oversell that.

American cities are not particularly safe compared with similarly sized urban areas throughout the rest of the civilized world so to hear people talk about how safe PVD is is just a little laughable. You're safer than in NYC, I get it. But let's be real here and stop pretending that American crime is in a good place, simply because it is perpetually on the decline.

If your point is that we're dealing with such a small sample size here (24 vs. 9) that the percent decrease YoY is a worthless data point, I completely agree. But that argument also reinforces that Providence is an incredibly safe place where very few homicides occur any given year, since we're dealing with such a small set of data.

wow, sounds like someone that knows they lost. sad.

> Journalists are not very skeptical of these stories, and just report what is said in the report, the press release, or what some of their interviews say.

I'm on board with pretty much everything you said, but then there's this. If this is the case (and it probably is), they're bad at their jobs. Period. I was a journalism student in college (didn't pursue it for a career) and every single one of my professors described this type of approach as lazy, arrogant, irresponsible, and sloppy.

Your purpose, as a journalist, is to find the truth behind a given story and then report the facts in a manner that resonates with the audience. It's not to parrot talking points you're fed by political strategists or the fucking cops. And that's what local news outlets are at this point – mouthpieces for authority figures with whom they have a buddy-buddy relationship. Most consumers are not media literate enough to decipher spin from reality, and so we end up with otherwise ordinary people turning into fearful conspiracy nuts and letting their fear become rage against [insert target of the day here]. If you're contributing to that cycle, you're the problem.

>The people on this forum by definition identify with the city of Providence and have a vested interest in open collaborative discussion about it.

I've made this very point before myself and had folks on this very subreddit disagree with me in making it.

Am I the one looking at too short of a time scale though, or are you? I'm just being critical that the year-over-year numbers are the headline and folks are glomming onto them like they're meaningful in that relative vacuum. If someone wanted to post and say, 2022 homicides in providence are down X percent over the 10 year average, I'd have nothing to say. That would be a reasonable way to present this data.

My point isn't about the numbers or even the safety of PVD in general versus the subreddit's perception, it's about the gullibility of the readers that the headline could exist in the first place.

try again? idk if i have it in me after that cringe