Recent comments in /f/providence
give_me_wine t1_j7w33b1 wrote
Can’t be true because my friend from Seekonk thinks she’s gonna get shot if she goes to Providence place 😂
give_me_wine t1_j7w2sn3 wrote
Reply to comment by Guyincognito4269 in Providence shootings dropped by nearly half in 2022 by PM_ME_ASS_SALAD
I live in Providence and I get shot every single day, sometimes through the windows in my apartment on the second floor
Kelruss t1_j7w2j25 wrote
Reply to comment by kbd77 in Providence shootings dropped by nearly half in 2022 by PM_ME_ASS_SALAD
Look, I’m critical of this kind of coverage and how it warps our politics and shapes policy outcomes, but I think that’s going too far in describing at least how a lot of local journalists approach their job. There is a “if it bleeds, it leads” quality to the nightly news (the “Eyewitness News” format) that reinforces perceptions of crime. The stories are straightforward to write and draw traffic/attention, so in an industry that looks to fill time/column space, the economics of these stories contribute to their proliferation.
But a lot of news bias in our local papers and television stations is less a particular agenda of any single journalist or outlet, and their bias towards who talks to them (and who they view as a legitimate source to talk to). They are also conditioned to see “sides” of a story. Crime stories, as far as they are concerned, only have two sides: the police and the criminal, and the latter isn’t talking to them, so they only report the police narrative, which reinforces the ability of the police to write their narrative.
There is also just the inescapable reality that the corps of journalists who cover Providence are overwhelmingly white, and virtually none (whether white or not) are actually from the city. They simply don’t have contact with or contacts within the city, and so they can’t tell complex stories about the city. So when a shooting happens, they can only tell you the victim’s name and age, and can’t really delve into who that victim is/was as a person. In comparison, when a violent crime victim is not from Providence, coverage will often go a bit deeper.
The other problem is that a lot of journalists in local media do not provide analysis, but merely report what is said. Data-driven features take time to produce and are infrequent. But most “data” stories are because someone released a report, whether government as in OP’s link, or an advocacy group calling attention an issue, or as a marketing ploy for some company’s product (a lot of the rankings that get reported). Journalists are not very skeptical of these stories, and just report what is said in the report, the press release, or what some of their interviews say. But they generally won’t analyze the methodology or sourcing of such things, and tell their audiences if it’s any good.
The result is coverage that is biased towards anecdotes rather than data, biased towards what people say rather than what is actually occurring, and biased towards the loudest yellers and those with the resources and prestige to yell loudest.
Remarkable_Money_369 t1_j7w1xh1 wrote
Reply to comment by fiskeybusiness in Explaining the Rhode Island pizza strip: What is it and why does it exist? by Katie_Lan
It might taste good, but it is not pizza
Good-Expression-4433 t1_j7w1gsn wrote
Reply to comment by Guyincognito4269 in Providence shootings dropped by nearly half in 2022 by PM_ME_ASS_SALAD
Currently have 3 bullet holes in me and some Antifa thugs burned down my street. It's chaos I tell you!
jmzjmzjmz t1_j7w01jt wrote
Late to the thread, but Asian fast food and bakery is by far the best Thai I’ve had in providence.
boulevardofdef t1_j7vwptu wrote
Reply to comment by Amaliatanase in Explaining the Rhode Island pizza strip: What is it and why does it exist? by Katie_Lan
As someone who's lived in both Rhode Island and Illinois, those two states are so dead on as the ones with the least pride.
Rhody has a huge inferiority complex due to being sandwiched between two wealthier states with more resources, both of which are easily reached from anywhere due to RI's tiny size.
Illinois is completely dominated by the Chicago area, which has its own strong identity, and Chicago-area people look down their noses at the rest of the heavily rural state. Then people elsewhere in Illinois bash the state for being dominated by Chicago.
FunLife64 t1_j7vwm6k wrote
Reply to comment by silverhammer96 in Best Burger in Providence? by NEYachtBroker
Weekends by 10 am tend to be the time they get inundated.
Weekdays on very nice days sometimes.
Keeks2021Moderna t1_j7vw513 wrote
Reply to comment by TheGhostOfJaySherman in 🚨Thai Food Emergency🚨 Best drunken noodles in Providence? by TheGhostOfJaySherman
Drunken noodles with beef. Their pad see ew is also great! Pad Thai, moo ping, Thai pork omelette is all great.
ryanfingawesome t1_j7vu8pi wrote
i think the thought process is that if all the pizza here is gonna suck anyway, might as well get almost pizza from a place that already makes bread.
kbd77 t1_j7vu2it wrote
Reply to comment by Dangerous_Public_164 in Providence shootings dropped by nearly half in 2022 by PM_ME_ASS_SALAD
2022's homicide total (9) was smaller than any of the previous 5 years. The next-smallest was 11 in 2018. Try again.
Dangerous_Public_164 t1_j7vsy21 wrote
Reply to comment by Prota_Gonist in Providence shootings dropped by nearly half in 2022 by PM_ME_ASS_SALAD
crime has been on the decline worldwide for our entire lives, there is nothing surprising there. the trajectory of pretty much everywhere in america decade over decade is for places to get safer and safer. that doesn't make them safe though and the notion of safety is of course all relative, which is why I say, and you guys hate it, that providence is not a desirable place to live.
what IS surprising is you can have over double the previous year's (2019's) rate of homicides in 2020 and 2021 and folks on this forum will still get excited over reporting that in 2022 it's now back down to only slightly more homicides than in 2019.
Tortankum t1_j7vrplr wrote
I moved to Phoenix and missed them so much I decided to take matters into my own hands and make my own. It’s delicious
ryanfingawesome t1_j7vrh4v wrote
where’s previous floor to talk about how this clearly isn’t the case and the city isn’t safe at all?
[deleted] t1_j7vr14g wrote
Reply to comment by Disastrous_Table_669 in Explaining the Rhode Island pizza strip: What is it and why does it exist? by Katie_Lan
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mountain_pose t1_j7vpsth wrote
enjoying a strip from silver stars as i type 🍕
Prota_Gonist t1_j7vnbdv wrote
This was to be expected. The city has been on a steady downward violent crime trend since at least 2017, with a smaller downward trend for nonviolent crime in the same span (except for Motor Vehicle thefts and motor vehicle larceny which saw a small overall increase).
Generally, Providence is getting safer year over year, despite what certain local news outlets might have you believe.
Source: https://www.providenceri.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/2022_SelectedPart1Summary_FINAL.pdf
kbd77 t1_j7vla5p wrote
Reply to comment by Kelruss in Providence shootings dropped by nearly half in 2022 by PM_ME_ASS_SALAD
Almost like the local media has an agenda and wants everyone to live in fear so they keep tuning in to their incendiary sensationalist garbage!
Kelruss t1_j7vjs5w wrote
The thing is, you could watch this occur in near-real time as the Providence Police release weekly reports on crime in the city. But the coverage of the Providence mayoral primary election was dominated by questions about crime and safety.
FrutaFertil t1_j7vjqnh wrote
My favorite is Heng. I’ve tried Bee’s, Lim’s, Apsara, Thai Star and a few others. If I can’t have Heng, I’d rather not eat Thai food in Providence.
Pvdsuccess t1_j7vjiu5 wrote
It was so cheap when I was a kid. You stopped by the bakery and got some along with some spinach pies. We were vegan before our time.
Kelruss t1_j7vjdwi wrote
Reply to comment by Proof-Variation7005 in Providence shootings dropped by nearly half in 2022 by PM_ME_ASS_SALAD
Or how it “just felt safer” in the 90s when Buddy was mayor and crime rates were twice as high as today.
degggendorf t1_j7vit4u wrote
Reply to comment by PM_ME_ASS_SALAD in Man injured in Providence stabbing by Previous_Floor
For sure, there's just no real benefit to putting your feelings into words.
GotenRocko t1_j7vir0p wrote
Reply to comment by SquatC0bbler in Explaining the Rhode Island pizza strip: What is it and why does it exist? by Katie_Lan
I used to eat them too and were decent for what it was and price. But now it doesn't use real cheese. Look on the ingredients it uses imitation mozzarella cheese. I bought one recently and didn't taste like I remembered and looked at the back and noticed why. The other brands that make frozen pizza, except tontino's, at least use real cheese.
Prota_Gonist t1_j7w5y9d wrote
Reply to comment by Dangerous_Public_164 in Providence shootings dropped by nearly half in 2022 by PM_ME_ASS_SALAD
This is why panel data is important. You're looking at too short a time scale. This is a form of sampling bias, not to mention (and I do apologize for stating this so bluntly) just a poor research practice.
Furthermore, it seems that you're indulging this bias in order to falsely deduce something about this forum's users- namely, that we're all Providence Apologists who actively overlook stats and figures in order to push a false narrative about the city's safety.
That sentiment is, simply put, not reality. The people on this forum by definition identify with the city of Providence and have a vested interest in open collaborative discussion about it. No one is looking to grasp at straws or downplay real issues. That's why so many posts here involve collected data or primary news sources. If anything, this is one of the better places to find providence residents willing to take a good hard look at the issues faced by the city... and, when we have occasion, give it some hard-earned credit.