Do you have a basement drain? Get creative. (I know someone who did this lmao.)

I can understand your frustration, but surely as someone who wants to be sensible, you can understand the difference between a criticism of your proposed solution and a criticism against attempting to address the issue overall.

It's a complicated issue, but I often feel both sides of it argue right past one another.

Ultimately, the way I see it is that there's no denying that we have a gun violence problem and something needs to be done. However, all proposed measures I've seen discussed fall short in one or more ways. Some deprive law abiding citizens of constitutional rights without due process. Some make criminals out of currently law abiding citizens who do nothing. Some only serve as a legal hurdle for those who care about legality. Some do nothing to address the problem, only the ramifications of being a perpetrator. Some do nothing to address the problem at all. Some only effectively make it more expensive to be a responsible gun owner, effectively serving as a barrier for lower income individuals.

I'm not saying "do nothing", I'm saying "don't do the knee jerk feel good stuff that makes things more difficult for responsible law abiding citizens while doing little or nothing to address the problem".

Instead, let's try to figure out the best ways to address the thousands of gun crimes without penalizing the millions of gun owners not committing those crimes.

Because as horrific as the gun violence is, the reality of our democracy is that gun owners are many in number, widespread, and a ton of them vote consistently, with gun control factoring highly into their voting decisions...and as long as it's an issue that's easy to reduce to "Dems wanna take your guns, Republicans want you to keep them", those people are going to have at least one very good reason to vote red, or at the very least not vote blue. Even if you get a liberal gun owner who aligns with the Democrat platform generally, you're asking them to vote against their own self interest in that regard in many cases.

If the Democratic party could drop the typical gun control proposals, and come up with an idea to address the problem, without running afoul of the issues I pointed out above, I think they would fare far better in races nationwide. Liberal gun owners aren't a myth. There's a ton of them out there. And the party actively rejects those votes and pushes them into the other column every two years because they push for measures that will solve nothing yet make things more difficult for these people. In fact, on a more local level, I think a lot of these dark red areas of PA could turn pink, and pink areas purple...if the Democrats would push candidates who were pro-union, pro environment, and abortion and gun neutral. While that stance might make them unpopular in more urban districts, it's a big help in rural districts.

I rented a house in the war streets from 2018-2020 and this is incredibly accurate. It was great and then shit got weird in 2020. More of a nuisance, but it was a turning point. Can’t believe how it got worse

> grocery store at the bottom of Cedar

this is the giant eagle the other posters are mentioning.

I lived there for 5 years. I was only hassled once or twice, but I'm a big guy. I never quite got used to the helicopters or light pollution (I didn't have to turn on lights to go to the bathroom at night). What used to be REALLY bad was the backup beepers on the equipment at/by AGH. Just constant high pitched beeping from 8am to 4pm.

I can get 3 tacos from a vendor on the street in Oakland or in beechview that are 300% better at 1/4 the price. Fuck mad Mex.

I welcome this. That means there will be more indie startups and less corporations. Eventually all night mom and pop diners will arise and fill the gaps and they won't all be garbage-ass eat n parks or Denny's.

Yep. See Dean Bog's Wilkinsburg episode and his "flippers stay the fuck out of Wilkinsburg" comments lmao.

Shitty politicians run this corrupt city

Move to the Mexican War Streets if you can. It’s the best area in the north side.

I don’t disagree with much, if any, of the things you listed. However, I see no proposals in that response.

How would you like to see the rampant gun violence in America be eradicated? What solutions do you propose?

Arnold Slick, how could you?!?

So the second amendment gives me the right to kill cops in self defense awesome!

I'm on a Keto diet. It is very hard to eat out. I tend to just stick to Longhorn(steak and wings) and Red Robin (lettuce wrapped burger). If I can't look up the carbs on your website, I'm not eating there. Max and Erma's does have a gluten sensitive menu, but if I can't see the carbs, I'm not going to risk throwing myself out of ketosis.

You won't do it by simply removing a single type of tool from the people who want to do harm. How many guns did Timothy McVeigh use? How many guns did the Boston Marathon Bomber use? How many guns did the 9/11 hijackers use? How many guns did the truck driver use in Nice, France? How many guns were used in the deadliest school killing in US history?

When you have a compound fracture broken bone, it doesn't do any good to simply put a bandaid on the skin if you don't treat the cause. The single common denominator in EVERY murder, regardless of the type of weapon used, isn't a gun, it's the person who chose to harm someone else. If you don't treat the person, and the reason for wanting to harm others, you won't stop the killings.

I’m not the person moving goalposts. I pointed out guns are used for mass killings in schools and not any other weapon. You said it’s about social breakdown but cannot explain why mass killings are not committed with any other weapon.

i think satire died when too many people took The Colbert Report to be real...

What solutions do you propose?

I’m curious, since you are so keen to nitpick things I say and volley comments back and forth, how would you like to see the rampant gun violence in America be eradicated?

It's pretty bad when you have to dissect your argument with a scalpel to try to defend it.

None. I never said there was one.

Like the Right to drive a vehicle? Which Amendment gives that Right?

You know it wasn't taking about an actual established militia unit, like most people think of a militia, today, right? Most citizens in the country are, by default, already militia members.

Forgive me, I used an apocryphal example. Libel is still not legal, so my point still stands that sensible regulations are possible when it comes to constitutional rights.

The greater point of the satire I tried to make was that every gun owner is a well intended responsible and safe gun owner, up until the moment they aren't. The opposite is a rhetoric that tries to justify guys like these, mal-intended or not.

*Autocorrect

Sounds like a great solution to that problem would be to distribute free identification cards to every American adult on their 18th birthday. That way everyone is able to vote without paying a poll tax and they can own weapons without paying for their license as well.

As for insurance, I’m sure there’s a logical way to compensate for that. Perhaps weapons could have a $5 surcharge added to their price? Something like that. For things that already cost hundreds of dollars, another $5 (or some other negotiable term) shouldn’t be a barrier to anybody. I’m open to other solutions or suggestions as well.