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Hautamaki t1_j0mzgus wrote

I always thought the time is a wheel metaphor is intended to marry the concepts of cyclical vs linear time. A wheel is a device that translates circular motion to linear motion. The way I see this playing out in a hypothetical universe is that things play out repetitively like a circle, except each circular revolution in time brings the universe forward in some conceptual way, closer even if imperceptibly towards some genuine end state.

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Major_Pause_7866 t1_j0mzcjp wrote

Time is a wheel/time is an arrow/time is created by the faculty of intuitive perception (Schopenhauer)

I read the blog post, as well as investigated some of the ideas & terms in the comments. I offer another view of time which is well known & discussed since philosophy was first conceived.

Following Kant, Schopenhauer argued (something like this) that time, space, & causality are organizing attributes living entities use to perceive - that is, create the externality about us. Schopenhauer predated evolution, but it can be argued convincingly that perception is an evolved characteristic and living things have a wide variation in perceptual ability.

Call it Will (Schopenhauer), or god, or collective unconscious (Jung), or élan (Bergson) or psyche (Kastrup) or just common sense (Glasersfeld): there is no way to go around, dismiss, or explain away that our experience, including thoughts, emotions, bodily functions, is based on our perceptual apparatus.

Schopenhauer (Book 1 of The World as Will & Representation) page 1 "everything that exists for knowledge, & hence the whole of this world, is only object in relation to the subject, perception of the perceiver, in a word, representation."

Philosophy Now, Issue 134, page 8 "for the external world to become known to me, it must first be filtered through structures in my mind which arrange the raw data of my sense, so that the chaotic torrent of sensation that impacts my senses ends up as ordered chunks of experience & knowledge."

In short, our perceptual apparatus (as with all living things) can only deliver to us "what the apparatus at our disposal can do or mediate." Bryan Magee, The Tristan Chord, p 153.

Schopenhauer considers "Time" as one of the perceptual/reasoning attributes used to organize & conceptualize our interactions with our perceptions. Physicalism or materialism or scientism may dispute this by pointing out the advancements of science & technology. One could counter this point by considering that perceptual consistencies for all creatures is evolved & humanity is simply discovering the consistencies of our perceptual "world."

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Colon t1_j0mwgjt wrote

there's no argument for or against either. it's about how cultures or societies view themselves and their existence in the world under one or the other school of thought. the author is observing what they feel is a resurgence of the cyclical view, but then as i noted, says they hope a balance is maintained. because of the benefits of both.

i felt that was fairly straightforward, maybe you read too fast or gave up under some false assumptions?

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