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theebees21 t1_j9i345u wrote

Yeah both those and then a healthy amount of optimistic nihilism have served me well and I’m a pretty content and happy person now at 30 when compared to when I was in my late teens and early 20s. I learned about Epicureanism around then and have been developing my personal beliefs and philosophy somewhat around it and the other beliefs mentioned. It’s been good to me.

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mrmrmrj t1_j9i2whp wrote

Indian reservations were created by the tyrants in this metaphor. The Indians did not choose the land or choose to be relocated. If you believe the Indians were treated poorly, then you cannot endorse any kind of forced or delineated property ownership. Any version will eventually end in <insert group here> reservations.

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failure_of_a_cow t1_j9i1u9s wrote

You're suggesting that some people seem willing, just because they know no alternative? Sure. I'll grant there are some of those too.

Regardless of indoctrination though, an enthusiastic defender of property rights is still an enthusiastic defender of property rights. And there are a lot of people like this. And so many of those are poor.

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contractualist OP t1_j9i1cym wrote

It’s not about actual consent but what would reasonable people agree to. No way would anyone reasonably agree to be enslaved, sacrificed, or raped. Abortion and eating meat relate to the boundaries of our moral community (not necessarily the agreement, but who is a party) whereas the death penalty (given certain evidence) may be morally excused.

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failure_of_a_cow t1_j9hzwgx wrote

Limiting property ownership to certain types of people is an all-ism. There is no economic or political system which does not do this, except perhaps anarchism. And even that depends on how it's implemented.

Limiting ownership is an inevitable result of a limited supply of property.

As for what tyranny is, that's another subject entirely.

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