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InterminableAnalysis t1_j7s319v wrote

I hear you, but I should make it clear that I'm not making any claims about Beyonce in particular, only reporting how intersectional analyses would approach the situation. The details are much more fine-grained in those analyses, and the authors performing them often have some other justificatory arguments, and that just won't all fit into a reddit comment.

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InterminableAnalysis t1_j7ryr4n wrote

>never getting over the lost of a loved one

The point Butler is making is not about a person never healing. The argument is that if the person who is lost (say person A) is a part of the identity of the person who has lost (say person B) then person B undergoes a change in identity. You're right to say that healing is to be considered on an individual basis, but if a person loses any part of their identity then they are by definition no longer exactly the same person.

>Butler saying that gender is performative is kind of a scream; it’d be like me telling my doctor — “you’re not really a doctor, medicine is performative”. Of a prisoner. — you’re not really a prisoner — Incarceration is performative

Butler doesn't contrast reality and performativity. Their theory of performativity only contrasts a certain kind of reality (that of original and stable reality) to performativity. A closer analogy would be saying "you are not essentially a doctor, but have become one through your training".

>Finally if her theory of intersectionality means that Beyoncé lacks something I have because despite being fabulously wealthy Beyoncé also intersects with being black. — that’s a bunch of non-sense

Intersectionality generally analyzes the way that various social statuses come to affect the way people are seen and treated. You're right that Beyonce is wealthy, but intersectionality would precisely address her wealth. What kind of social privileges do people get for being wealthy? How are black people perceived? How are black, wealthy people perceived and treated? One major misunderstanding that people have about intersectional analyses is that they tend to think "privilege" means "a property which makes a person's life always easy and good", and really all it means is "the lack of some kind of social barrier or source of detrimental treatment", which may be rather trivial or may be very important, but is always to be analyzed contextually.

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