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zhibr t1_j747y6j wrote
Reply to comment by YawnTractor_1756 in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
Ok, but in regard to brains an biology, is this just a modified hard problem of consciousness or something else?
contractualist OP t1_j747n8x wrote
Reply to There Are No Natural Rights (without Natural Law): Addressing what rights are, how we create rights, and where rights come from by contractualist
Summary: What are rights? They are entitlements paired with duties. But how can these rights be practically specified in the real world? How should we prioritize rights against one another? And where do these rights come from? Traditional libertarian rights theories fail to answer these questions of specification, prioritization, and genealogy. But a social contract analysis does.
I'd appreciate any feedback and criticism on this theory of rights so I can develop it further. I'd be happy to address any questions.
SuspiciousRelation43 t1_j747h6v wrote
Reply to comment by wwarnout in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
How we as a species are ideally capable of making sense of reality.
[deleted] t1_j747bj4 wrote
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diggyrelle t1_j7471s3 wrote
Reply to comment by xylophonesRus in How to be a sceptic | We have an ethical responsibility to adopt a sceptical attitude to everything from philosophy and science to economics and history in the pursuit of a good life for ourselves and others. by IAI_Admin
Same and then I thought wouldn’t it be skeptic? And then I realized I should travel more.
FinancialTea4 t1_j745pys wrote
Reply to What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
I would say if there is one thing that makes humans unique it's our arrogance. The kind of arrogance that leads us to believe we're unique or that it's important anyway.
SuspiciousRelation43 t1_j744f0z wrote
Reply to comment by TikkiTakiTomtom in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
This is getting suspiciously close to the old Rationalism versus Empiricism dispute. There is substance, and then there is form. What we might call reality-in-itself is both and neither of these simultaneously; rather, they are two opposing means of comprehension. They are contradicting yet interdependent aspects of our consciousness. They could also be phrased as perception and conception.
Gondoulf t1_j7444n5 wrote
Reply to comment by noonemustknowmysecre in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
So what's the answer to the plenarian and the frog developing its own cognition. I would like to know.
SuspiciousRelation43 t1_j743n6p wrote
Reply to comment by 70Ytterbium in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
You’re really pushing my temper.
70Ytterbium t1_j743kxm wrote
Reply to comment by xNonPartisaNx in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
Never heard of the so called "Reduction to Brian". Would like to know more. Can you cite said logical fallacy? Thanks ad nihilo!
Gondoulf t1_j743fog wrote
Reply to comment by Matt_Dragoon in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
Curiosity is very much an animal instinct ; human consciousness and animals' consciousness are very much different in how they differentiate through acting upon their instincts. As animals do, humans are a slave to their instincts (their unconscious) and as Nietzsche put it : before sacrificing God as what is most sacred to us, we had to sacrifice our instincts, meaning we had to repress our instincts to become "sophisticated". You cannot threaten an animal with the burden of death in the future ; you cannot give it an existential crisis by showing him the bones of his mate. They surely do mourn others but do not seem to understand that this also will happen to them. I do agree that some examples are very interesting ; for example, the elephants cemeteries where they go when they are old to die and the relationship they have with the concept of death. It would still seem to me as an instinct insofar as it looks very much like a biological clock. The idea of differenciation in consciousness in our species is also a very interesting one to explore ; people from very old tribes seem to have a different kind of consciousness than we do. Two types have been observed : a consciousness of events and a Collective consciousness . The first one seems to be the oldest one in terms of evolution ; it is simply not an individual consciousness nor a collective one ; the individual acts as if it isn't a person but merely one with the events around him. The second one came after : it is simply like the individual consciousness but shared by a group ; what is felt by one is also felt by the others. So the oldest one would very much look like an animal's type of consciousness. Now the question that arises is what's next ? Why does it goes from the events towards the individual and why has this particular order been selected ? What's the step after the individual, the hyper-individual ? This, too me, seem like the most interesting discussion to have with the discussion on the development of consciousness in humans and why does it seem different than the rest. Let me know what you think.
70Ytterbium t1_j7429y5 wrote
Reply to comment by Myl0high in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
Absolutely
Ortega-y-gasset t1_j73xcqv wrote
Reply to comment by zhibr in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
Billiard balls smashing across the table isn’t the same as a game of pool, although the smashing of the balls determines the game, the game doesn’t reduce to it.
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[deleted] t1_j73uaz6 wrote
Reply to comment by renopriestgod in “All knowledge must be built upon our instinctive beliefs. If these are rejected, nothing is left. We can organize these beliefs and their consequences, modifying or abandoning them until they don’t clash, forming a harmonious system.” | Bertrand Russell on Epistemology by dbrereton
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Ashamed-Craft-763 t1_j73t0bm wrote
Reply to What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
We were lucky to have been birthed into intelligent primates, to be able to peer into the vast universe and are slowly figure out it's mysteries. We could've been born a cow or insect, never being able to realize that.
70Ytterbium t1_j73su0f wrote
Reply to comment by erinaceus_ in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
Hey hey, please leave string theory out of this.
medbud t1_j73qc8q wrote
Reply to comment by ncastleJC in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
This contains lots of details...https://youtu.be/RwEKg5cjkKQ
He's basically on the same page as Friston with Active Inference and the Free Energy Principle...I can't quite tell what that means in terms of philosophical claims.
Myl0high t1_j73ouna wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
Let’s not forget this was from a human and well that would be considered bias
Myl0high t1_j73opqy wrote
Reply to What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
Very biased opinion here
Matt_Dragoon t1_j73nmrc wrote
Reply to comment by Tigydavid135 in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
How did you determined other animals don't have those things? Most animals I can think of are curious, and investigation arises from curiosity...
Coomb t1_j73m957 wrote
Reply to comment by YawnTractor_1756 in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
>>In what sense is the wave not reducible to the physical motion of the molecules? > >Generalized enough everything can be described as a transfer of energy. If you accept that 'transfer of energy' can serve as the definition of any process (wave, fire, typing comments on Reddit), then we are on the same page, and we now have universal and useless theory of everything. > >But if you insist that we cannot generalize like that because it omits important differences, then I repeat again: physical motion of the molecules is not a wave. Wave is a physical motion of the molecules in a pattern of wave.
What about "wave" is not reducible to the motion of the fluid particles?
Are you just saying that we have an abstract concept of a wave? Because that's true but pointless in the sense that we can't interact with abstract concepts, only physical realizations. There is no real wave which can be described exactly using abstract parameters associated with a general wave.
Swampberry t1_j73kww5 wrote
Reply to comment by zhibr in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
Philosophically, the distinction between "determined by" and "can be reduced to" is related to the idea of determinism versus reductionism.
Determinism is the philosophical belief that all events, including human actions, are determined by previous causes and conditions, and thus are inevitable. In this context, "determined by" refers to the idea that the outcome of a certain event is fixed based on certain conditions or causes.
Reductionism, on the other hand, is the idea that complex phenomena can be explained in terms of simpler, more fundamental components. In this context, "can be reduced to" refers to the idea that a complex problem or concept can be simplified and understood in terms of its basic building blocks.
Semantically, the difference between "determined by" and "can be reduced to" is that "determined by" implies a fixed outcome, while "can be reduced to" implies a potential for simplification.
In conclusion, "determined by" and "can be reduced to" represent different philosophical and semantic perspectives on the nature of causality and the relationship between complexity and simplicity in the world. /ChatGPT
Tigydavid135 t1_j73kt04 wrote
Reply to comment by buttersstochfan-5956 in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
Sentience basically, just what it means to be human and all the faculties we have access to that other animals don’t (potential for introspection and high level thought and investigation, curiosity, etc) there’s a sort of wonder and joy to being alive that goes beyond hard science.
SuspiciousRelation43 t1_j74827d wrote
Reply to comment by Cdub400 in What makes humans unique is not reducible to our brains or biology, but how we make sense of experience | Raymond Tallis by IAI_Admin
Not just cooking, but fermentation, pickling, curing, aging… in fact you could even describe cultivating more edible organisms as a part of digestion, although that is certainly stretching the definition.