Of course I could, but the fact is you’re not asking because you actually want a source. You know damn well this is your ideology, you’re proud of it but you know you can’t be public about it. I’ve read what y’all say when you don’t think anyone on the outside is listening. You know your ideology is abhorrent, you know it calls for the elimination of “undesirables” and the implementation of an authoritarian regime. I’m not here for gotcha quotes or to play your stupid games, I’m here to support the side that’s gonna stop you.

Can you link one single example of one saying they what you claim?

They don’t support smaller government or individual liberty, that’s absolute nonsense and you know it.

What kind of “individual liberty” does one have if they’re being forced to give birth for someone else’s religious reasons, or as an adolescent athlete, be subject to mandatory molestation to “make sure they’re not trans”?

What kind of small government devotes funds to going after drag shows when the country is spiraling into recession from their “non-intervention” healthcare policies during a pandemic - which included literally stealing medical supplies from healthcare providers and then ransoming them back to the market for profit?

You’ve fashioned an entire policy wing around going after anti-racism, whether it be frothing up the fanbase with stoked fears about “CRT” or rabid dismissal of anything “woke” - a term that essentially means “aware of racism and injustice.” You couldn’t be more obvious about your intentions if y’all came out and screamed the N word in public, although many republican argue suspiciously hard to have the “1st amendment right” to do specifically this and not much else.

The only places where the Republicans and their fanbase aren’t trying to marginalize or straight up eliminate someone (whether it be the poor, the gays, trans people, the educated, black people, Hispanics, Jewish people, Asians) is when they’re trying to corruptly funnel even more money into the pockets of the ultra rich.

We hear “I want to oppress and/or kill all the gays/nonwhites/trans people/educators” because that’s what y’all SAY, over and over again. You seem upset that people finally listened.

> I had one particular company that had people inputting thousands upon thousands of blocks of financial data by hand. A software that they already had could have automated it, so without them even needing to pay anything I was like "in 10 minutes we can have your software set up to draw data automatically and input it from place A to place B, so that you won't have to pay people hundreds of man hours in salary to do it". And their response was basically "we can't do that. Inputting that data is someone's job, and to take it from them would dishonor both us and them". Where obviously pretty much anywhere in the West the response would be "hell yeah, sign me up"...

I can confirm that they behave like this, yes. And frankly, to me it always seemed to be a much better mindset.

Gay Hispanic man here, I fully agree. If I find out someone is Republican/conservative, I just distance myself. Even if they’re super nice to me, it’s like how can you sit here and show me kindness then vote for people who are calling gay people groomers? Those politicians and pundits have inspired so much hate that drag shows are getting shut down due to threats of violence and at time, groups coming in the area with WEAPONS. How can you give me kindness and then treat immigrants like they’re subhuman? The cognitive dissonance is real. I show them respect and treat them like I would treat anyone, but we’re not going to be hanging out or shooting the shit at all. I just don’t tolerate them in my personal life.

Yes because republicans say they want to oppress and eliminate. Gimme a break.

“I support smaller government, equality under law, and individual Liberty” and you hear “I want to oppress and/or kill all people of color and The Gays”

They pretty much come out and say who they are directly.

For my own safety, I’m going to believe them.

Your perception of ‘those people’ (and what you think they want) isn’t objective fact.

That's not quite right, from Planck's perspective.

Planck is essentially adopting a new axiom. He's taking this axiom on faith. Like all axioms, it doesn't depend on further justification.

Otherwise, yes, without an axiomatic foundation, we end up in an infinite regress. The same is true for math and any other system of logic.

No it’s not, that’s a bullshit argument - and it definitely doesn’t cover being intolerant of an ideology whose entire principle is oppressing or eliminating anyone who doesn’t fit a specific set of traits.

Bigotry is intolerance for people who hold different opinions than oneself.

Tolerating other peoples silly opinions does not lead to a Fascist Dictatorship. This is a straw man argument.

You’ve hit the nail right on the head.

It’s so cringe-inducing when people go around citing the paradox of tolerance to argue for the criminalization of certain types of speech and other things that Karl Popper most certainly would have been opposed to.

Ya I loved it. Your welcome! It was very eye opening. And timely!

I think we're in violent agreement here :) The hypocrisy means nothing to them.

Oh, you misunderstood - they never planned on being even slightly tolerant of anything or anyone, the plan was to force us to tolerate their regressive bullshit!

I’ve felt for a long time that this whole “liberal tolerance” thing was just a psyop by the right to keep the left and center from fighting back - replacing them both with the most ineffective, wishy-washy form of liberalism a person could find and telling them “you’re just as bad as the people attacking you if you fight back.”

We don't even have a culture of tolerance now in the US. There's open animosity and antagonism directed at multiple minorities in conservative media and government.

At this point, violent intolerance of conservative views is merely self-defense.

This isn’t a question of philosophical differences, it’s a question of “do we allow a bunch of walking hate crimes to legitimize themselves and their discourse in the first place?” The answer is no, fuck every one of them.

For me, morality exists in respect to the harm principle. The responsibility of the harm comes down to whether the human is aware/recognizes the harm as such. Is it always bad to cause harm? Religion requires there be a God that approves and disapproves of types of harm, and that it be obeyed. Why not discuss what harm individuals are willing to accept instead? This might be objective, or it may just be a construct of human society, of human perception. Good is relative to the human after all.

My response to this argument from conservatives is that I never said I was tolerant in the first place.

I’m not tolerant when it comes to them. Not a bit. Between their rampant, multilayered bigotry against black people, foreigners, gays, or trans folk, and their militant devotion to forcing anti-intellectualism down everyone’s throat in the form of religion or pseudoscientific grift, I see no reason to tolerate them at all. Besides, their authoritarian ideology openly exclaims the need for my elimination, so fuck ‘em all as far as I’m concerned!

It should be rendered painful to continue along with such a mindset, and such a “philosophy” (if you’d call it that) should be greatly discouraged at all costs.

I'll definitely have to check that out later! Looks interesting for sure

Interesting they leave out Iamblichus and Damascius.

Conservatives arguing for tolerance of their noxious views only increases my violent intolerance to their existence.

Very insightful! Thanks for sharing this.

I can use what I sold over there as an example. Sold corporate financial analytics software...

In the U.S. you're almost always selling bottom line. "This software will make your employees get work done faster so you save money". Over there you're much better off with "this product will reduce human error, making your results better". And over there you never say that it can replace employees. You say that it gives employees a tool to make them better at their job...

I had one particular company that had people inputting thousands upon thousands of blocks of financial data by hand. A software that they already had could have automated it, so without them even needing to pay anything I was like "in 10 minutes we can have your software set up to draw data automatically and input it from place A to place B, so that you won't have to pay people hundreds of man hours in salary to do it". And their response was basically "we can't do that. Inputting that data is someone's job, and to take it from them would dishonor both us and them". Where obviously pretty much anywhere in the West the response would be "hell yeah, sign me up"...

And they are really really focused on tradition. Like every company I worked with over there (and this was just like 3-4 years ago) would fax documents to the front desk at my hotel to get them to me instead of emailing. Because fax is what they've always done...

It takes a lot of getting used to, but they are so religious with it that once you are used to it you can count on expected responses almost 100% of the time .