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OMKensey t1_j3m3xi3 wrote
Reply to comment by _Zirath_ in Atheistic Naturalism does not offer any long-term pragmatic outcome of value when compared to Non-Naturalist views, such as Theism by _Zirath_
Sure. What I'm saying is, I'm not convinced naturalism is a worse life jacket than anything else on offer.
Also, believing true things has its own benefits.
SvetlanaButosky t1_j3m2r83 wrote
Has anyone actually solved the Objective Vs Subjective Morality debate?
A lot of people are on the objective camp (with various arguments) but more and more people are jumping to the subjective camp.
Some say morality must be objective because we have biological needs like good health, which is universal, so anything that promotes good health in life should be objectively moral?
I believe Sam Harris uses the same logic.
What say you? Morals are objective or subjective? What is your argument?
MaxChaplin t1_j3m24jv wrote
Reply to comment by Archelon_ischyros in The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo
I don't see it as unintelligible at all. Must be a cultural difference between me and this sub's general users. I see people trying to relate it to social justice, which is probably the area they're more comfortable in, kinda like I often try to parse philosophical arguments in terms of systems and mathematical models.
As they say, when all you have is a hammer, a screw is an ugly nail with a helix that makes it needlessly difficult to hammer.
Brandyforandy t1_j3m208c wrote
Reply to comment by Oh-hey21 in Our ability to resist temptation depends on how fragmented one's mind is | On the inconsistencies in one’s mental setup by IAI_Admin
I, as well, am similar to you that I always found my own path from a young age, so as a teenager there was no rebellious phase for me because whatever I had learned was already tested and true. I believe you are in a similar position.
awnfire t1_j3m1y61 wrote
That was a muddled reading unfortunately.
There was no real “Problem of evil” evil discussed.
_Zirath_ OP t1_j3m09gx wrote
Reply to comment by OMKensey in Atheistic Naturalism does not offer any long-term pragmatic outcome of value when compared to Non-Naturalist views, such as Theism by _Zirath_
Regarding the boat analogy: if the boat is sinking and it seems we're going to lose our life, wouldn't your preference for continued life motivate you to seek out a life jacket or something similar? Even if you were convinced you were likely going to die?
RenlyTheLast t1_j3m026h wrote
Reply to comment by MidnightAnchor in The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo
It’s a 7th grade “I just watched Vanilla Sky and now I understand” epiphany lol.
RenlyTheLast t1_j3lzxu0 wrote
Reply to comment by MidnightAnchor in The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo
So…like regular human behavior then ? 🤦♂️
BernardJOrtcutt t1_j3lzkwm wrote
Reply to Violence and force: “Camus and Sartre are paradoxically inseparable because they are opposites in this most central and binding debate on racism and all kinds of social oppression.” by IAI_Admin
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MaxChaplin t1_j3lyp55 wrote
Reply to comment by Excellent_Fig3662 in The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo
What form would justice and equality take in a world where minds span the entire spectrum from lizard to chimp to human to superhuman, or where people can create an army of clones of themselves? Social theories formulated in the 19th century are not ready for this.
Ohgodgethelp t1_j3lxfdc wrote
Reply to comment by magvadis in The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo
No, thats not exactly what it says. Your framing makes it sound like a 1960s civil rights revolution. This is about increasing complexity in the way the new generations minds work, causing them to be incompatible with what came before.
MidnightAnchor t1_j3lx65l wrote
Reply to comment by agent_wolfe in The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo
Is that you James?
For kind a country!
MidnightAnchor t1_j3lx0y8 wrote
Reply to comment by RenlyTheLast in The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo
It's an important message, being considerate of the authors writings. Please be kind and reeeeewind
MidnightAnchor t1_j3lwt5b wrote
Reply to comment by RenlyTheLast in The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo
Imagine a God shows up and speaks with you.
They are omnipotent and genuinely pleasant.... but they burn your house down.
They burnt your house down to help you.
You just know that there is no way that burning your house has helped you, but both opinions are true.... The difference being that one of you exists outside of Time.
your perspectives don't line up.
sirwilliamspear t1_j3lw39g wrote
Reply to Anna Alexandrova, a philosopher of science at Cambridge, argues that a “science of happiness” is possible but requires a new approach. Measures such as “life satisfaction” or “positive emotions” can be studied rigorously. An underlying variable of “happiness” cannot. by Ma3Ke4Li3
That’s called positive psychology and has been studied for over 30 years.
MidnightAnchor t1_j3lvyfe wrote
Reply to comment by r0ndy in The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo
Imagine it started 100,000 years ago. How would you know?
MidnightAnchor t1_j3lvuir wrote
Reply to comment by k3170makan in The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo
Human beings are not built to serve justice. Equality on the other hands....that would be really nice... But it requires justice.
MidnightAnchor t1_j3lvm2c wrote
Reply to comment by Excellent_Fig3662 in The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo
You speak a Truth. Thank you
MidnightAnchor t1_j3lvhg8 wrote
Reply to The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo
Last night I dreamt I was alive.
I woke..... still propping the world up.
RenlyTheLast t1_j3lulbh wrote
Reply to comment by Gmroo in The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo
I read the post, how about YOU read some of the comments you’re getting?
Stop 👏🏻trying 👏🏻to👏🏻make👏🏻yourself👏🏻sound👏🏻smarter👏🏻by👏🏻using👏🏻unnecessary👏🏻words👏🏻
“Computers maybe might think differently, so that probably might change society.” Wow, one sentence, one comma- REVOLUTIONARY!
Gmroo OP t1_j3lu7ea wrote
Reply to comment by RenlyTheLast in The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo
Read the post, not just the title. A mind does not equal a human or "people".
RenlyTheLast t1_j3lu2s5 wrote
Reply to comment by Gmroo in The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo
That’s what the post says bud. Stop trying to big head everything, lol. This isn’t “Fight Club”
Gmroo OP t1_j3ltsvo wrote
Reply to comment by RenlyTheLast in The intersubjectivity collapse: a collapse of the network of unspoken rules that hold civilization together based on the subjectivity of minds that have created it, due to introduction of vastly new minds that lead to unpredictability of agents amongst each other. by Gmroo
"Because people think differently" is not the case I make. Read the post.
VersaceEauFraiche t1_j3ltmdx wrote
Reply to Violence and force: “Camus and Sartre are paradoxically inseparable because they are opposites in this most central and binding debate on racism and all kinds of social oppression.” by IAI_Admin
"The notion of formerly separate people becoming “groups in fusion,” which come together united by a desire for radical social change, was first theorized by Jean-Paul Sartre in his Critique of Dialectical Reason (1960) – a radical re-adaptation of Marxism.."
This is interesting to hold in juxtaposition of the fact that BLM rallies received major institutional support, not just from universities, professional sport leagues like the NFL and NBA, but also from the super majority of Fortune 500 companies. It reminds me of Nikole Hannah-Jones speaking at an event that was sponsored by Shell.
The usual refrain is that these things "don't matter", or that these institutions are insincere with their support, but I believe that these refrains are just a coping mechanism with those who are unable or unwilling to recognize that the regime ideology isn't "New Jim Crow".
SvetlanaButosky t1_j3m4m53 wrote
Reply to Gorr the God-Butcher and the Problem of Evil by ADefiniteDescription
Good and Evil are vague man made concept, in reality there is only what people are willing to accept or not, which changes over time, culture and region.
Only subjective consensus matters.