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defaltusr t1_j36wlco wrote
Reply to comment by Brandyforandy in The Persistent Problem of Consciousness: an astronaut's epiphany by simsquatched
I dont think the universe wants anything. It just is, and by some random fluke life poped up
defaltusr t1_j36wi3z wrote
Reply to comment by MandelbrotFace in The Persistent Problem of Consciousness: an astronaut's epiphany by simsquatched
But what we all dont know, is consciousness
- Really the end of it or is there something above consciousness that we cant grasp and understand? Like a „mindless“ bedbug will never be able to comprehend consciousness outside its limited brainfunctions.
- really a winning trait. In the end maybe the „consciousness feeling“ is a loosing trait, destroys itself and goes back to „mindlesness“. Like in that episode of love death and robots.
clairelecric t1_j36vpt0 wrote
Reply to comment by IAI_Admin in Our ability to resist temptation depends on how fragmented one's mind is | On the inconsistencies in one’s mental setup by IAI_Admin
I don't understand what they mean. All people are conflicted and self contradicting. So in that sense there is always fragmentation. If they don't mean that, then what?
bxsephjo t1_j36sdl7 wrote
“ If consciousness is fundamental and primary to all else, rather than an emergent property of complex matter, then, in a strange twist of fate, this would mirror many of the great religious teachings throughout the ages.”
I wouldn’t call it a strange twist. I think our history of religious teachings is the reason the idea has so much of a foothold in the first place. Just because we can imagine consciousness existing outside the brain does not give the theory any credence.
blimpyway t1_j36r8vz wrote
Reply to comment by Ill_Spread_6434 in The Persistent Problem of Consciousness: an astronaut's epiphany by simsquatched
Or maybe neither. Consciousness could simply be the inwards reference frame.
Something akin to outwards reference frame yet having an opposite direction.
nymph-hunter t1_j36r5ye wrote
Reply to comment by Mustelafan in The Persistent Problem of Consciousness: an astronaut's epiphany by simsquatched
Nowhere, the same is true with any type of dualism like panpsychism, but it's also true with any type of monism like materialism or idealism. Ontology do be like that for now.
Mustelafan t1_j36qpk0 wrote
Reply to comment by flynnwebdev in The Persistent Problem of Consciousness: an astronaut's epiphany by simsquatched
Okay, I feel "isolated" and I reject the "panpsychic nature of reality". Once again, where is the evidence that panpsychism is correct?
Brandyforandy t1_j36qely wrote
Reply to comment by IAI_Admin in Our ability to resist temptation depends on how fragmented one's mind is | On the inconsistencies in one’s mental setup by IAI_Admin
So they are saying to accept the fragmentation would make you a stronger person?
evolvaer t1_j36plsh wrote
Reply to comment by zaceno in The Persistent Problem of Consciousness: an astronaut's epiphany by simsquatched
Mmm yes I concur.
MandelbrotFace t1_j36lh0v wrote
Does anyone feel like consciousness isn't really a thing in itself? Like it's a necessary illusion created in the brain in order to be aware and accept information?
I was chatting recently with a friend about consciousness and the sense of self. I suggested that if we could go back in time to when he was born, and he was transported somewhere else, to another country and raised by a different family then maybe it would be the equivalent of a completely different person and consciousness (basically the same as if a different baby was born). It wouldn't be 'him growing up somewhere else', it would literally be an entirely different 'consciousness' and sense of self operating in that body.
It is amazing that when matter in the universe is left for long enough, it eventually creates a self aware object that wants to study itself and everything around it. What a crazy ride reality is.
IAI_Admin OP t1_j36l3qw wrote
Reply to Our ability to resist temptation depends on how fragmented one's mind is | On the inconsistencies in one’s mental setup by IAI_Admin
Abstract: An important recent distinction in the empirical literature about self-control is between resisting and avoiding temptations.
While we have some evidence that avoiding temptations is the more efficient method of the two, philosophers have focused almost exclusively on resisting temptations.
The aim of this talk is to examine what the ability to avoid temptations depends on and argue that it depends primarily on how fragmented one’s mind is: on the inconsistencies in one’s mental setup.
The fragmentation of mind requires a significant amount of mental effort to conceal from oneself and this leads to a weakened ability to resist temptations.
Maximus_En_Minimus t1_j36jrr7 wrote
Reply to comment by ViniciusSilva_Lesser in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | January 02, 2023 by BernardJOrtcutt
Are you able to explicate what you mean by this “intelligence” a little more?
Brandyforandy t1_j36fm8t wrote
Consciousness is the universe looking back at itself! Always loved this quote. Why? Because if that's true then the universe itself want us to explore it.
flynnwebdev t1_j36fm8q wrote
Reply to comment by marcinruthemann in The Persistent Problem of Consciousness: an astronaut's epiphany by simsquatched
Feeling isolated can have several possible causes: psychiatric or psychological disorder, personality disorder, ignorance or rejection of the panpsychic nature of reality, lack of physical interaction and connection with others (a basic human need), etc…
zaceno t1_j36dqsw wrote
Reply to comment by Ill_Spread_6434 in The Persistent Problem of Consciousness: an astronaut's epiphany by simsquatched
Regardless of my own personal beliefs I think it’s important to recognize that this question of the primacy of mind or matter is in fact a question of belief as there is no way (as of yet) to conclusively dismiss either theory.
This “problem” stands in reproach to the staunch materialist atheists who take such pride in being so purely logical and scientific (and by implication smarter & better). The simple fact is that their outlook is based on belief too.
marcinruthemann t1_j36btj5 wrote
So feeling of unity is the proof? But other people feel isolated. So which feeling is the right feeling when it comes to evidence for some form of panpsychism?
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DirtyOldPanties t1_j369vlx wrote
Reply to comment by Jaggerex in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | January 02, 2023 by BernardJOrtcutt
Why are all human beings evil? Why are all human beings good?
DirtyOldPanties t1_j369t5r wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | January 02, 2023 by BernardJOrtcutt
The Nazis were not evil?
DirtyOldPanties t1_j369ie9 wrote
My post regarding the Philosophy of Alexander Dugin was unfortunately removed without comment for apparently not being about Philosophy 😢
Anyone else have this issue?
DirtyOldPanties t1_j366uk1 wrote
Reply to comment by Accomplished-Dig3991 in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | January 02, 2023 by BernardJOrtcutt
It seems to me you're equating personal gain with evil? Why?
gian_mav t1_j360io3 wrote
Reply to comment by contractualist in The Utility Coach Thought Experiment by contractualist
>My substack argues that objective morality does exist (its wrong to torture babies for fun for example, regardless of one's own opinion).
It is immoral only if you value human life and consider causing suffering to humans immoral. Imagine an intelligent alien that holds that only aliens of its species have inherent value and everything else has value insofar as it effects the lives of other aliens. How could you convince him that his morality is "wrong"?
>The last section of asks whether you would force others to accept the utility coach. I even state: "My question is whether you would force other people to sign-up for the lifeplan." I'm not interested in one's personal choice, but how far this personal choice should be imposed onto others. If satisfaction is all you care about, then people would be obligated to force others to accept the utility coach's offer. However, I argue that people should be free to make their own decisions, regardless of the amount of welfare on the table. And this personal freedom is valuable beyond personal welfare. Its something to be respected for its own sake, and its fundamental to ethics.
The one you presented and the one I would be ok with are fundamentally different. The questions "would you force someone to maximise their personal happiness" and "would you force someone to increase the happiness of humans collectively" are incomparable. I think the second is moral, but in no way is it the same coach as the one you presented.
Ill_Spread_6434 t1_j35oe1v wrote
Great read- what do you think came first the chicken of matter or the egg of consciousness ?
dhurkzsantos t1_j35nye3 wrote
Reply to Teaching philosophy in a children’s prison has shown me the meaning of anger | The arguments against imprisoning children are well established, yet still we lock up those who have been failed by Va3Victis
directing efforts, at situations, earlier than the children
extensive effort on helping parenthood of children
extensive effort of educating on what results to children
extensive efforts of educating society of philosophy and right action
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Reply to comment by clairelecric in Our ability to resist temptation depends on how fragmented one's mind is | On the inconsistencies in one’s mental setup by IAI_Admin
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