There's one obvious example of why. Does it hurt more to break your leg, or see someone you love break a leg, or to see a random stranger break a leg?

How you rank those is going to determine your views on equality.

Probably actually, as will the hundreds of thousands that no longer die at birth or while giving birth.

“Life is a game” well you’d certainly love to believe that huh!

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Science is a method.

Capitalism is a system.

Any method used within a system is tinted by it.

Suicide ends the game play pretty fast.

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Humans are free to give anything meaning, even death. Life is required to give meaning.

also a game that we play unwillingly

>>> I’d argue this is more the result of capitalism Not science

>> I can agree with that, can you agree that: science is a pre-requisite to make it happen?

> Science is not a pre-requisite to capitalism.

Oh my.

> All work is in the capitalist system right now science included, but that’s not a fault of science.

Are harmful things that science contributed to the fault of science?

If capitalism can be guilty of things, why can science not be guilty of things?

> Science is as often stifled by capitalism as it is financed

Perhaps (you're welcome to show your work), but this is orthogonal to whether science causes harm.

Empathy is not something everyone possess in sufficient amount, and it's very easy to lose. You're waging that empathy would be enough to prevent our deliberately selfish self under your ideal to not harm each other, and i think that would dangerously not work... Capitalism is basically what it is.

Put more simply: antisocial behavior is the reason we can’t have a proper society. I can’t believe people are arguing against this!

Thanks for the comment. I learned new things.

Your examples are presented as events separated from the past. If we isolate the situation from all prior events, then free will exists because you can consciously choose between a few options. Hence, compatibilism seems logical.

But if you try to track and connect all prior events, you'll see that you have been led to that situation and your decision.

In this thread, you can check my comment about inescapability from a trio of genetics, life experiences, and external circumstances.

Do you mean it is defeatist? If so, I wouldn't say that's completely true for every flavor of absurdism.

How do you think a balanced culture between the individual and collective operate?

I appreciate your comment above.

It’s main mechanism is the pursuit of profit. This done via the exploitation of things. Cheap labor cheap raw materials etc etc. This model will consistently produce evil.

I am going to go with you on this. On the Why? part, not the robot part.

Rhetoric can do all kinds of things, including paradoxes and ironies, and that era of thinker used both rhetoric and philosophy quite well.

But that does not mean something can't be dated, or passe as it were.

It is one of those classic tropes in Western literature that death is somehow an insult. Theological reasons? Poetic reasons? Logical reasons? I am not confident saying why this developed as a trope, but it did. Death is an insult is how Schiller more or less described it, and that same thought is kind of implied in Kant. So death is this "categorical objection" of some kind?

In any event, I think such a notion was a creature of its time, and as time goes by is starting to appear to more people as very presumptuous. Absurdity is what happened to the Romantic notion of tragedy. But what "death is" simply can no longer be assumed. There is no consensus any more. We can use these old tropes, but the point kind of is, we are apparently moving out of their range.

Do we need to turn back?

how is it evil?

shiiii idk 🤷‍♂️

Science is not a pre-requisite to capitalism.

All work is in the capitalist system right now science included, but that’s not a fault of science.

Science is as often stifled by capitalism as it is financed

> I’d argue this is more the result of capitalism Not science

I can agree with that, can you agree that:

• science is a pre-requisite to make it happen?

• the scientific community is not well known for saying (because they do not say it) that their work is producing harm because much of their work is conducted under capitalism?

I’d argue this is more the result of capitalism Not science

Capitalism is a kind of religion too

I understand what you're trying to say here but it's not what the parent was talking about. Everyone's circumstances are different and that's OK.

You don't have to give away your money or possessions to be nice - all you have to do is smile at someone. Say hello. Ask the shop clerk how their day is going and mean it. Bring cookies into work. Let someone merge in front of you on the road. There is, if you look for it, always time and a way to bring a little bit of joy to the people you see in the world. If we all realize this, life becomes a lot more fun for everyone.

This is not accurate

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