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SuperKaleidoscope349 t1_j1zrjjh wrote
Reply to comment by Franksenbeanz in Life is a game we play without ever knowing the rules: Camus, absurdist fiction, and the paradoxes of existence. by IAI_Admin
Now this is one hell of a take
foxrun89 t1_j1zri1j wrote
Reply to comment by CryptoTrader1024 in An Argument in Favour of Unpredictable, Hard Determinism by CryptoTrader1024
I’ll have to look it up when I get home.
CryptoTrader1024 OP t1_j1zrdn8 wrote
Reply to comment by foxrun89 in An Argument in Favour of Unpredictable, Hard Determinism by CryptoTrader1024
well, I think most christians do not believe this. most of christianity leans pretty heavily on free will.
foxrun89 t1_j1zquvi wrote
Reply to comment by CryptoTrader1024 in An Argument in Favour of Unpredictable, Hard Determinism by CryptoTrader1024
Doesn’t the Bible say something about the book of life and death? I think they’ve already been written. Therefore, your path has been chosen for you.
lilbluehair t1_j1zqfcl wrote
Reply to comment by XiphosAletheria in Life is a game we play without ever knowing the rules: Camus, absurdist fiction, and the paradoxes of existence. by IAI_Admin
You're honestly saying that people profiting from others' labor aren't excelling at the expense of others?
There is no such thing as infinite growth. The wealth of first world nations absolutely came at the expense of the resources and labor of less advantaged nations.
lilbluehair t1_j1zq26o wrote
Reply to comment by Usernametaken112 in Life is a game we play without ever knowing the rules: Camus, absurdist fiction, and the paradoxes of existence. by IAI_Admin
Life has no inherent meaning, everything we do is a construct, and here you are advocating for the status quo
MonkeyDJinbeTheClown t1_j1zpxg5 wrote
Reply to comment by stayh1gh361 in Life is a game we play without ever knowing the rules: Camus, absurdist fiction, and the paradoxes of existence. by IAI_Admin
Oh wow, literal millenia of the greatest minds in philosophy debating the purpose of life and some random on Reddit finally has the answer! It's a Christmas miracle!
XiphosAletheria t1_j1zpvyd wrote
Reply to comment by CryptoTrader1024 in An Argument in Favour of Unpredictable, Hard Determinism by CryptoTrader1024
> No "choices" really exist, except in our imagination. If possessing a mental image of imagined options is "free will" then free will means very little I think.
What makes you think they don't really exist? I mean, the universe as a whole is an non-living system, yet some objects in it have the emergent property of being alive. The universe as a whole is a non-conscious system, yet some objects in it have the emergent property of being conscious. The universe as a whole is a deterministic (non-choosing) system, yet some objects in it have the emergent property of being free-willed (making choices). And that is, after all, how we experience ourselves, as living, conscious, free-willed beings. Mostly the arguments in favor of determinism seem to be arguments from ignorance - I can't explain how free will could exist, so it must not be real! But I think this is just the prejudice of a society that overvalues science, which has little interest in the subjective experiences of people because they are not something science is well-equipped to handle.
D_Welch t1_j1zply4 wrote
Reply to comment by XiphosAletheria in Life is a game we play without ever knowing the rules: Camus, absurdist fiction, and the paradoxes of existence. by IAI_Admin
Very well said but Capitalism seems to have a dearth of fans round these parts.
stayh1gh361 t1_j1zpakv wrote
Reply to Life is a game we play without ever knowing the rules: Camus, absurdist fiction, and the paradoxes of existence. by IAI_Admin
Ofc there are rules. You don't set yourself over the nature and abuse resources. You are the nature. You treat life on equal level as your own, so don't kill anything.
The mission in life is to recognize yourself and find back from separation to unity. The feeling of Unity comes with love, spreading positive energy trough acts and words.
Separation comes trough fight and flight mode, fear, greed, power and other egoistic characteristics.
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Reply to comment by Usernametaken112 in Life is a game we play without ever knowing the rules: Camus, absurdist fiction, and the paradoxes of existence. by IAI_Admin
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Franksenbeanz t1_j1zo5o1 wrote
Reply to Life is a game we play without ever knowing the rules: Camus, absurdist fiction, and the paradoxes of existence. by IAI_Admin
I like the absurdity that absurdism itself a form of philosophical suicide
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dejavu725 t1_j1znkg2 wrote
Reply to Life is a game we play without ever knowing the rules: Camus, absurdist fiction, and the paradoxes of existence. by IAI_Admin
Seems like just invoking the word absurd repeatedly in different contexts. Did chatgpt write the article?
XiphosAletheria t1_j1zneaq wrote
Reply to comment by who519 in Life is a game we play without ever knowing the rules: Camus, absurdist fiction, and the paradoxes of existence. by IAI_Admin
But isn't the great insight of capitalism precisely that you can excel without it being at the expense of others? That wealth isn't just something static lying out there in the world, but something that can be grown? Which is why any first world nation is much wealthier now than they were 500 years ago.
who519 t1_j1zkfg7 wrote
Reply to Life is a game we play without ever knowing the rules: Camus, absurdist fiction, and the paradoxes of existence. by IAI_Admin
I think we have discovered the rules, or rule really. Greed is devastating. The attempt to escape the collective and excel at the expense of others leads to all sin. Greed, Lust, Sloth, Envy, Pride, Wrath and Gluttony are all just different shades of greed.
YuGiOhippie t1_j1zke87 wrote
Reply to comment by Jingle-man in An Argument in Favour of Unpredictable, Hard Determinism by CryptoTrader1024
The unnecessary-ness of the universe means that all it’s elements are contingent :
Contingent is that which could’ve been something else ; that’s the beauty of it : it was unnecessary : not determined to be as such.
Your position is self-defeating.
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the_grungydan t1_j1zjb5t wrote
Reply to comment by AConcernedCoder in An Argument in Favour of Unpredictable, Hard Determinism by CryptoTrader1024
Unrelated, but here's my favorite ML joke.
Scientist: If all of your friends jumped off a bridge would you do it too?
Machine Learning algorithm: Yes.
Jingle-man t1_j1zh9g2 wrote
Reply to comment by YuGiOhippie in An Argument in Favour of Unpredictable, Hard Determinism by CryptoTrader1024
But if nothing matters, then everything matters!
>What a huge nihilist waste of time this universe is.
That's precisely what makes the universe so beautiful: the fact that it is unnecessary.
If you can't find fulfilment in the cosmic game, if you insist that only useful things have value, and things aren't worth caring about unless they mean something – then I pity your view of the world; it seems like a very exhausting way to think.
tokmer t1_j1zgt52 wrote
Reply to comment by InTheEndEntropyWins in An Argument in Favour of Unpredictable, Hard Determinism by CryptoTrader1024
No you are your brain. you are not your endocrine system, you are not psychedelics you consume, you are not an addiction you have. All of these thing effect your brain but they do not become it
Usernametaken112 t1_j1zg4yq wrote
Reply to comment by snash222 in Life is a game we play without ever knowing the rules: Camus, absurdist fiction, and the paradoxes of existence. by IAI_Admin
Because equality is a construct. There will always be haves and have-nots chosen by nothing more than chaos.
InTheEndEntropyWins t1_j1zee8x wrote
Reply to comment by tokmer in An Argument in Favour of Unpredictable, Hard Determinism by CryptoTrader1024
>You can be coerced by chemicals in your head, imbalances exist and can be adjusted to change things. You are coerced constantly by these chemicals you are not them
This makes zero sense to me. You are basically saying, "you" are being coerced by your brain. That you are not your brain.
What do you mean by "you" how are your defining it? How is any definition of "you" coherent if it doesn't include your brain the chemicals in it. How is any definition of "you" coherent if it treats the brain and chemicals as some external coercive influence.
mentaldegr t1_j1zd9b8 wrote
Reply to comment by Ma3vis in Life is a game we play without ever knowing the rules: Camus, absurdist fiction, and the paradoxes of existence. by IAI_Admin
They're not finding out the rules they're making rules up that kind of work or don't.
CryptoTrader1024 OP t1_j1zscfc wrote
Reply to comment by XiphosAletheria in An Argument in Favour of Unpredictable, Hard Determinism by CryptoTrader1024
I'm not sure you quite understand the argument, or you're arguing for a kind of dualism where the mind is not part of the world. Or you're arguing for magic, such that the laws of causation that govern everything else in the universe, somehow don't govern the electro-chemical reactions in your head? Which one is it?
You seem fine with the idea that the universe is deterministic. But then you say that some parts of the universe (humans, for example) are non-deterministic. How can you claim this, without invoking magic?