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FrankieCrispp t1_j1bcgk0 wrote

I work in a hospital and see this extensively every day. Considering the venue its a little disconcerting, yeah? Doctors (med and psych), nurses, social workers, physical/occupational therapists, almost every day I can see one of them answer a question in another disciplines absence or speak with certainty about something outside of their field. Sometimes people think they know. Sometimes theyre afraid to say "To be honest sir/ma'am, I cant really answer that but will direct it to someone who can". Even if they are correct it's still dangerous. I'm a social worker and I couldn't imagine answering a medical question. Even if it's something common or that I'm certain of, you won't catch me in a professional setting talking out of my ass. I have no problem saying "I don't know" to a stranger.

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thenousman OP t1_j1bc63k wrote

Yep, epistemic humility is crucial for open and honest discussion. One bone I have to pick is the charge of sowing division. We need experts and knowledge is so specialized that whoever lacks it must depend on experts. I don’t think most experts intend on trespassing, or that they are bad people, but that it’s part of human nature. Nonetheless, some caution is advisable on their part and our own.

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redsparks2025 t1_j1b8a4t wrote

Interesting article that identifies an issue but does not really provide a solution, but only sows division. I don't pretend to be an expert in anything and therefore my inquiring mind treads wherever it wants. However when asked my views I would be honest and state I am no expert in [Insert Topic]. So what is the solution? Being honest with oneself and humble.

If you cross into my lane, indicate first your intentions and be prepared to give way.

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VoxR4710 t1_j1b7wo4 wrote

I was thinking about very related topic earlier - how all the best people in life seem to go through depression while the crappy people who deserve to feel depressed never do.

All part of the beauty of life I suppose.. always harder to create than to destroy, to grow than to decay, etc. What makes good things so special.

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breadandbuttercreek t1_j1b7fav wrote

There are definitely different ways of looking at life, but generally flexibility and adaptability will serve you better than stubbornness and selfishness. If people try to take advantage of you, you need to find ways to protect yourself. Sometimes easier said than done.

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skyfishgoo t1_j1b5qj6 wrote

in your example the defense is at fault for not objecting to the testimony at the outset.

and or the prosecution is culpable for leading the witness into testimony they were not qualified to give.

probably why the whole thing was over tuned on appeal.

it's not up to the Dr to censor themselves and 'stay in their lane", as you put it, it up to the other actors in the court to discern what the hell is going on.

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EchosEchosEchosEchos t1_j1b39dt wrote

The worst part about this though, it's like being in a state of superposition that gets weird.

If you're the type of person who fully admits fault and feels guilt, and apologies when they do so, things can start to get wonky in your head if it's not in a cut and dry situation, and fault either... isn't easily determined, up in the air, unresolveable...or worst of all, with/regularly around someone that knows this about you, and tends to weaponises it without you even realizing it...and if you do, that makes you question if every error you make, even if you absolutely know you made it, was really an error you made.

And that's not even getting into the knowing your faults Vs. Imposter Syndrome Vs. Low Self Esteem "which one is it" thats omnipresent when they all are easily applied, and equally self evident indicators of "yep, it's that one".

In all honesty, the never-admit-your-wrong-or-say-sorry personalitiny seems like it would be a less stressful mental space to go through life with. You're just never wrong, less mental energy spent analyzing situations.

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adamsky1997 t1_j1awzp1 wrote

I enjoyed reading your article and I think the point made is a very important one. I feel we get this more and more in the public discourse, with people like Joe Rogan (or L. Fridman, Andrew Huberman) inviting guests to their podcasts and discussing topics way way outside of their field of expertise. Because of large listening base, these people start spouting their own uninformed opinions on variety of topics, and un-critical listener will think they are listening to experts...

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