i wouldn't say it's a straight up hipster bar but it's a cool spot and friendly to go to (despite its location). i didn't know they did shows so guess i'll be going back sooner than i thought

Thats good to hear, and at least some of this is my own perception that may not be shared by others.

But Lehigh itself is so pedestrian hostile that I find it hard to believe anyone is buying those new home on the far side up against the viaduct just east of Frankford. Yet it's happening, and I find the viaduct underpasses to be very pedestrian hostile, too. But I don't doubt there is development happening on the other side, too. I guess it's just a matter of how much relative to other adjacent areas.

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Port Richmond will definitely be one of the "next dominos to fall" and I'm excited to see less and less vacant storefronts on Richmond, but I also think there are some limiting factors to deter its growth from ever reaching Fishtown's level.

1.) Majority of the buildings are 2 story rowhomes vs. 3 story + scattered warehouses; limits your renovation potential, such as adding a home office/study in addition to a nursery or adding lofts for example. 2.) Lack of access to the El. The Trolley will help but that'll still take 10-15 minutes to reach the Girard stop. 3.) More generational old-timers than Fishtown who have stronger opinions on "change" in their neighborhood (to say the least)

I wanna be hopeful about PR, but it feels like a lot to ask. Lived there a long time. Some cool stuff opened, but on the flip side the QOL issues seem to have gotten a lot worse since the pandemic and the opiod crisis took off. The farther east you are the better, but anything near Aramingo got kinda tough in the last few years. I’m crossing my fingers for the place even though I’m gone.

They don't have enough trolleys to run full frequency so they will be supplemented with buses, but operator shortages are still the biggest challenge to maintaining headways.

I was between port Richmond and west passyunk when I was looking to buy, and, while I love it down here, I’m kind of regretting not putting in a more serious effort in my PR search, as there’s a lot going on up there that I’m sad to be missing out on.

Plus you don’t have Kenyatta up there.

Perfectly fine neighborhood. Mainly working class hispanics and SEA. If you're on Moyamensing try Taste of Punjab. They just opened and the food is amazing. Most of reddit thinks a neighborhood is unsafe if they don't see goldendoodles and lululemon leggings.

Safety, affordability and walkability. Looking at homes around the $300,000 range. I was also thinking the same thing, even if it’s a rougher area now, it seems to be improving as East Passyunk is pushing west and with Pennsport to the east.

I know there were COVID/construction delays, but it feels like they've been slated to come back "this fall" for three years running lol.

From Delaware to Allegheny

Surprisingly, development is starting to creep up and past Lehigh. I agree once the viaduct falls as a no go zone for yuppies/artists/creatives most of Upper Kensington and the Lower NE will be developed its so obvious. A lot of the Fentanyl problem will pushed to Frankford as property values rise along the El.

Of course I just forgot their names!

It's being redeveloped into a multimillion square foot life sciences research hub. Will bring lots of good investment and jobs to the area. https://www.buddbio.com/

What are you looking for as far as a home purchase? This area has a lot of potential and you’re right on the 57 line/ close to the park and some really great restaurants and coffee shops

Don't be fooled Jimmy, if a goose got the chance it'd eat you and everyone you cared about.

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I see PR as being an area that continues to improve, but I think it will still lag behind other Fishtown/NoLibs adjacent areas. There is still a lot of area along the El in east/west kensington/norris square area before you hit the train tracks north of Lehigh to be "developed". There is still a lot of room for commercial/residential development in the olde Richmond area. There is still a lot of room for NoLibs development to move west and south.

I'd expect all of those areas to outpace PR proper, but PR is a cool place so I hope it does well. And I look forward to a day when the combined development/interest in the lower Kensington neighborhoods and PR push into the somerset/mcphereson square/K&A area. that's probably the only way that area gets cleaned up since the city government is content to let it be hamsterdam.

Scheduled to come back this fall.

Moving to Rittenhouse next month. Any restaurant suggestions / good places to grab a beer?

If he said "Norris Square" or "East Kensington", he wouldn't have been wrong tbf

There's always the slew of dry cleaners/delis that proudly display their sunlight tinted, yellow-brown "Best of Philly 1994" mention on their walls.

I’ve usually had good luck with asking my current landlord to stay a couple of days extra. I usually pose it as I want a couple of days to get the place cleaned up for them. I offer to pay prorated rent for the extra days, but they usually don’t take you up on that. You can also ask the place you’re moving into. Usually the place is sitting empty for a while after cleaning and repairs.

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oh nice hopefully the headways stay the same when the trolleys are running. i'm just imagining someone leaving their car on the tracks "to run in and get some smokes" or something.