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TrueOcho t1_jdexfu9 wrote

Black man here… this is stupid and definitely seems like a political ploy to pit black ppl against Asians , as usual in this country. No one I’ve spoken to thinks this is a good idea or worth it at all. We have all that space on the waterfront if building a new arena is that serious . Nonetheless the only problem I ever have with the sports complex is the traffic and parking situation. Otherwise leave this alone!

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tough_ledi t1_jdexb4k wrote

Hmm. I doubt that a few additional trucks would make that big of a difference to anything in Philly or really anywhere in America. I also think that maybe then the org should just go into lobbying, if it's really just about holding the city accountable. There is a creative solution here that involves not having the contracts of city (& tax payer funded) unionized workers' contracts violated, whilst also not creating a culture war of for-profit private organizations pitted against the city government.

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Cobey1 t1_jdevfih wrote

Why do they support the arena? Is the work being done promised to majority of Black construction crews? This press conference doesn’t make sense if majority of Black workers aren’t going to be building the site? Also another big take: why not build the arena in a Black neighborhood if it’s that big of a deal? North Philly has a ton of vacant land near major public transit that would be amazing to fill the void of a disenfranchised community. All of these big power players seem to be focused on this dumbass market east arena when they could invest the billions into disenfranchised communities like North, west, or SW Philly.

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ell0bo t1_jdev8s9 wrote

You cherry picked one heck of a quote there... I can do that too

>First, and perhaps most important, nearly all empirical studies find little to no tangible impacts of sports teams and facilities on local economic activity, and the level of venue subsidies typically provided far exceeds any observed economic benefits

This study mainly looks at the question of "is it good for government to subsidize the stadium". That isn't the question here though. Hence why your quote is followed by: > Overall, consensus findings from economic research demonstrate that public subsidies to fund sports stadiums and arenas likely do not pass a cost-benefit test.

Another fun quote out of context: > economic research clearly identifies evidence of important intangible social benefits from hosting sports activities, which indicates that sports teams do produce positive spillovers through quality-of-life amenities, consumer surplus, and community pride benefits in some circumstances

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