I'd rather not crush needles under my shoes every morning , but this is fun investment I suppose

I think at some stations that actually is the correct stat, that only 50% pay. I can use 34th as an example, I do go to Drexel but always pay but definitely when going out at night, I don't think anyone else bothers to pay.

There is no SEPTA attendant and no real encouragement to pay, just out of good faith.

Also yeah everyday I leave city hall, someone comes in behind me on the handicap one haha.

Anyone know the full story? Why is the station important, and why is it being moved, and to where?

Anything happening over this weekend? Wanna get out during this nice weather we're having (barring today)

mainly I was just saying definitely more than 2.8k people hop each year (probably far more than 11,200 do), wasn't really commenting on the need.

however, I do think it is worth the investment. would certainly provide safer and cleaner platforms, which is a big reason why ridership is down. so factoring in more people actually paying (who knows how many people actually do hop, I would assume it is very high) and an increase in ridership, then you can maybe pay off the investment in a decade (which for infrastructure upgrades that is pretty decent). of course you would have to factor in yearly maintenance, but overall I do think these improved gates do a whole lot more than making sure people pay. I bet way more people would ride the subway if it was safer. No reason I should feel on edge at 3pm on a Thursday... or be walking past a pool of blood, etc. (yes that has happened).

I just hope that city also takes more time to address homelessness because it shouldn't be on SEPTA to be the only location where they can have any kind of shelter, and if the gates are improved and the housing/shelter need isn't met then we are in full a ton more issues.

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at 10x the reported number we are approaching a $70k problem with a $975k "pilot program".

Trash pickup days are the days that are causing a lot of blocks problems. They are paying Glitter to come clean up the blocks after the sanitation crews leave them a mess. (Listen, its also up to citizens to ensure they set out their trash/recycling appropriately to make it so their rubbish makes it into the back of the truck without spilling everywhere.)

The complexity is definitely adding to the job (but not 50K imho). That said, design work is expensive and what you might consider doing is doing a design separately and bringing that to a good contractor. You may also want to part out the plumbing work as well. Not 50k worth, but you're definitely paying to having all those types of professionals under one "roof".

You can probably get a few more quotes for less, but if you want a hands-off approach like this, you're going to pay for it. The perk is you don't have to deal with any of the permitting and other bullshit that might fit between the cracks of diff contractors.

My advice (fwiw), is probably to hire a designer who can do that work and also give you a rough price. Keep in mind, designers like to upsell finishes because, like all people, they prefer to work with superior products and produce a superior product. Also, I find designers to be OKAY at pricing, but not very good and understanding the market itself - so the price you might get from then will be VERY rough.

After you get the design, I'd shop it around to a GC.

so... maybe $28,000 dollars lost based on your feelings still leaves a pretty significant gap to $925,000 for 2 stations * the whole BSL and MFL networks, no?

Number 1 in the country is a tie between McGreary County, Kentucky and Mingo County, West Virginia at 49%

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Or they could install un-jumpable fair gates at all stations to keep the problematics out of the system, and use police to handle keeping them from loitering in the stations and using them as restrooms and drug dens.

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this city is a fuckin joke

is this why we had those damn 'copters?

If you only knew they have gotten big raises the last 2 contracts to basically stare at camera’s all day and the minimum needed patroling.

That's probably the worst thing that SEPTA could do, and would all but guarantee it gets turned into the mobile drug addict homeless shelter, driving ridership to near zero and seeing the abandonment of the system by the counties and state.

Why do hate public transportation so much?

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How is this group any different than the center city district.

I didn't think my kitchen was all that complex, but I did have to rebuild basically everything, including new framing because the old framing was done completely wrong. I had joists sitting on raw brick and no sill plate.

I hear you, the costs for major projects like kitchens and bathrooms are surprising to many homeowners. It's less surprising once you realize how complex these projects are, especially in remodel situations, as well as the staggering cost of the materials involved. Contractors aren't getting rich off of these, generally.

MTA in NYC turned off the alarms at gates because they were basically on full time making the experience shit for everyone else

It just surprises me is all. That's almost a quarter of my entire house just for one bathroom.