People need to be responsible for their own litter. It’s one thing to have a lot of transitory people in certain areas but it’s literally grown adults littering in their own neighborhoods. There’s zero chance getting a compnsy to pick up litter will affect anything. It will likely make it worse because people already think there’s people picking it up. There needs to be a cultural shift. This is maybe the most disgusting thing about Philly and it makes the city look worse then it is.

i wish you would step back from that fare evasion, my friend

When the trash collectors start picking up the litter off the ground, then they can bitch. Until then, they can fuck off.

Seems like unions hold a lot of the city back

Recycling cause more trash than just about any other source.

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Just get rid of them and do honor system. The salaries of patrol people will be less than maintaining these, and double as safety patrol. Many metro systems do this effectively.

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Seriously lol. Just when I was ready to post for my block smh. I suppose I can have them store the trash in my alley way though

Union labor dispute. Imagine my surprise.

They need to go back to allowing cars to being towed before being ticketed.

Yea but, Jimbo Kenney LOVES doing things 2 years after NY and Cali that failed there.

I moved near fishtown with the plan to take the train into the CC for work.

The train is one of, if not the worst, experiences I have ever had in Philly since moving here ten years ago. It’s a shit hole…literally. The homeless and junkies have taken the system over. They should make it impossible to access the stations without paying. All the homeless should be removed. As you said, it’s not the responsibility of septa to take care of the homeless population. I’m all for paying more in taxes to help house and feed people. There is zero reason why myself or anyone should feel unsafe at 3pm on a Tuesday taking the train.

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THOSE numbers were from out of my ass, but..... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-06/to-stop-biased-fare-evasion-policing-make-transit-free

Where are you getting these numbers?

Do you know you can add money on your phone ?

I get that it doesn’t work but I really like the idea of spending other people’s money (evil laugh)

If you pull the turnstile towards you halfway (as if a person is exiting through it) it creates a gap that you can slip through discretely. This is what most adults who farejump do. Teens hop over.

How about…. Get more transit police, get tap pay, clean the literal trash off the train, stop letting junkies shoot up on the train, stop letting people take actual shits on the train, stop letting people smoke on the train, stop delaying the trains….

If you’re so concerned about people not paying then actually get people to stop them in conjunction with better turnstiles.

Exactly. Does anyone really think the criminals and troublemakers pay fares? Do you think the drug addicts load up their Septa Key Card wallets?

I don’t think many would be deterred by an alarm. I’ve seen turnstile jumpers look directly into the face of the SEPTA employee as they’re doing it, and just keep on going.

The most effective to me seemed to be the full body the turnstiles they installed in parts of 30th street, but I also hate them as they cause congestion so I don’t know.

I rode the El for the first time in years and while waiting for the train to arrive at 2nd Street, people were just freely walking in and out of the handicapped-accessible turnstile. Guess what they were doing on the platform? Guess how many SEPTA employees or transit police were at the station?

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