The fare system helps to prevent ne'er do wells from accessing the trains, a la regional rail and PATCO.

If they’re more focused on that then more patrols at main stations such as the Frankford or 8th and Market. I’ve seen more fare hoppers at those stations that anywhere when I was riding

They should just contract the PATCO gate designer.

Of course , neoliberals are not fans of comments like this

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When they buy more the cost will go down per station. Fare evasion is a serious issue and most of the people jumping are causing problems on the trains. They need to be excluded and the trains should be for riders only. Septa is not and should not be a homeless shelter

They passed the resolution in the last meeting. They're buying them, but they're buying them from the same company that designed septa key. Hopefully it goes well.

When did we get to the point of everything needing a pilot program? Like do half the stations this year and half next.

That said, I'm glad they're doing something.

I've been saying exclude and remove the smokers and shitters and shooters from transit. Septa is not and should not be responsible for the homeless population. Its seriously deterring lots of people from using the el. The worst is smoothbrain idiots out there defending or criticizing plans to do something about it, or making fun of people who talk about smoking or drug use like they're suburban babies. Get fucked with that attitude.

That septa cop was just bored on the job making stuff up. They just hop the turnstiles lol

Can’t have shit in this city

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Can't implement this without making ticketing quick and 100% reliable. SEPTA key sucks and the fare machines are unbearably slow.

If I'm faced with waiting 5 minutes to process a fare at a kiosk, and miss a train that likely won't come for another 20 minutes, then I'm sure as hell going to jump the gates.

Focus on safety, reliability and convenience, then fare evasion.

I mean, they don’t even need organized groups like…panhandling $2.50 seems pretty feasible to me.

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If you think only 2800 people hopped the turnstile last year I have a bridge to sell you.

Yup, most recently to allow for NFC open payments, which was the entire plan when Septa key was envisioned many years ago. Although in their defense technology has changed and an upgrade really isn't unexpected.

The only issue is they still haven't launched NFC open payments.

I'm super excited to see Septa actually start doing something potentially meaningful and visible to help solve their problems. That is assuming these aren't delayed by many years like most other Septa projects, where is open/NFC payments that was promised years ago?

Although the article cites fare recovery, this may be more about doing a better job keeping problem users from accessing the system. That could boost safety and cleanliness, and get more people to use the line.

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Leave it to septa to spend millions on what, 10k of lost revenue? What they should do is get their buses to run on time

On both subway lines (BSL as well as MFL)

Do this at all of the stations

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I asked a SEPTA official in December how they are getting on and off the platforms. He told me there are organized groups of people that go around helping them with fares.

That feels conspiratorial to me, but this official swore by his claim.