Recent comments in /f/philadelphia

CreditBuilding205 t1_jczzp7h wrote

Illegal guns used in crimes are much more likely to come from southern states with loose gun laws. They track this. It’s just a simple fact.

People aren’t driving down to Georgia to buy guns because it’s a fun road trip. They do it because the laws down there make it easier to traffic guns without getting caught.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/12/us/gun-traffickers-smuggling-state-gun-laws.html

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johnhd t1_jczxijv wrote

>So tell me again how requiring more training and safety courses, and safe possession of the firearm, wouldn't help?

How does one require "safe possession" of a firearm? Require that they all be locked up? Is the government providing funding for safes, or is that just another cost we're gonna toss over to gun owners to cover? Is someone coming to my house once a month to confirm everything is locked up? Will they also be evaluating the rest of my house for safety, making sure my chemicals and knives are locked up, etc? And will they go into my neighbor's house as well, since they're a convicted felon prohibited from owning firearms? Can't imagine any negative impacts from sending police with itchy trigger fingers door to door in lower income neighborhoods...

Tangent aside, let's say we require 2 hours of training and 1 hour of safety courses for the 100,000,000 existing and all future gun owners in this country.

Person A, who wants to straw purchase firearms to earn extra cash, sits through those sessions, then proceeds to buy 20 handguns over the course of a year, and charges an extra $200 per pistol instead of $100 for the added time. No change.

Person B, who follows the laws, sits through the sessions, buys a gun, and puts it in a lock box in her night stand because she lives alone in a sketchy neighborhood. Someone breaks in and steals the lockbox while she's working overtime to cover for the time she missed attending the training. No change.

And what happens when there's no noticeable change? Do we increase it to 4 hours training? 10 hours? 20? Or do we shift focus to adding another gun ownership barrier at that point?

If the government wants to provide free optional training to the 100 million gun owners out there, fine by me. But requiring training and/or making firearms owners responsible for the costs is effectively punishing everyone for the actions of few, and adding a financial and time barrier to owning firearms.

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CreditBuilding205 t1_jczvshn wrote

People often get shot at memorial services for victims of gun violence. The original victim had enemies who do not believe the victim should be celebrated. They didn’t kill the victim because they thought he was a swell guy. The enemies do not like the victim’s friends.

The new victim here was present when his friend was killed 10 years ago. They were involved with drugs, and were following the guy who shot at them. The guy claimed self defense. This new victim also eventually testified, after first refusing to do so.

I obviously don’t know. But It’s not very hard to imagine This new victim said something about his friend or himself or his friend’s killer that someone objected to. Or that someone else said something he objected to.

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