seems misguided to target the establishment as opposed to the people committing the crime. they have a right to be open and do business. hookah's popularity is wider than folks who shoot each other.

Bambi at Broad and Porter has done good work for me.

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Wait they opened this place without your approval? What the fuck how can the city let this happen

Please explain to me the societal benefit of a hookah lounge being open at 3am next to an important institution

Where should it be?

One thing that I think gets lost in the discussion of Temple safety is that everyone who lives in North Philly is just as deserving of a safe environment as a Temple student.

Are you saying private business can’t be regulated?

People don't get shot driving? At house parties? At bars? Or are you one of those everyone should be home by 10 and things won't happen types? Death to third places will prevent shootings, right?

No one should ever be able to leave their house to chill after 9 pm, that'll limit shootings!

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It's pretty fucking amazing.

To be fair, it’s in the first floor of a privately owned student housing apartment complex. I lived there in 2012. Not just some random hole in the wall on a corner.

Your issue is with the hookah lounge?

No

People smoke drugs out of a hookah.

You know this right?

You never smoked weed or other drugs out of a hookah? I have.

Because people shoot people there

A business that attracts assholes that shoot people at 3am is what is wrong

Lol. Hookah isn’t weed. You know this, right?

Why not?

I know and it hurts to see :(

Hookah is tobacco…

I’d argue shootings at 3am are a valid reason to pull a permit.

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Semantics. It shouldn’t be there.