i take a bus multiple times a day, everyday for years and this is a first! i ride the train everyday too and people smoke all the time. i think once there was three people smoking at the same time once 😭

😳 she can marry me

not sure what it was, i don’t think it was weed nor cigs 🤷

Yeah, that’s the thing about Kelly Drive. You don’t see a lot of minor accidents. They tend to be quite severe.

Based on other comments, it sounds like they need the ability to allow cars there during some events(?).

I’m missing how citing that a small city has a car free street compares. Does Pittsburgh, Chicago, Atlanta, Phoenix, etc.? (Genuinely asking.)

I respectfully disagree. I drive slower next to barriers because I’m afraid of hitting them.

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A person who quit smoking by vaping here, among many friends who quit the same way. I get that you shouldn't vap in a restaurant or on the trolley, but it's night and day for the ill effects of smoking indoors.

I agree you shouldn't vape on the trolley, but it is an effective way of quitting smoking, and it's not remotely the same.

People will be driving over this in no time. It’s not going to keep these assholes from parking/driving in the grass. I see countless illegal vehicle related things every day, ever time I leave my place and zero police doing anything about it. Car break-ins every day, running red lights, parking everywhere and anywhere, no license plates. It’s maddening. Yesterday someone flew by me in a left turning lane just past the zoo only to cut off the three cars in front of me and fly through the intersection. If the police don’t crack down nothing is going to change.

The Nissan Altima 500

gotcha, "barriers"

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YES

Guess the "helps quit cigarettes" marketing has worked because a lot of people seem to think vapes aren't like smoking, don't have nicotine, etc, even though they're basically the same

I even had a bus driver threaten to kick off a passenger over not wearing a mask back in the day. She said “if you don’t put that mask on I will throw you off this bus right now and next time I see you I will drive past you so fast your head will spin.”

I moved and now I am taking the bus to work instead of the train. Definetely an upgrade.

Trolleys are the same. I’ve never seen anybody try any fuck shit on the trolley, even in the post pandemic era where I literally haven’t been on the el without someone smoking on my car.

Yes stopping the train between stops is discouraged

Yeah, only seen one person try it on the 48. Driver stopped the bus, cussed them out and then kicked them off.

bus does not fuck around is right. had a couple of young kids try starting shit with me as the bus was a block away. they tried to get on the bus after i did and the bus driver recognized they were trouble and told them to get the fuck off and they can’t ride. most of the drivers are great and they do not put up with shit.

SEPTA drivers get random drug tests. No way do they want to risk second hand weed causing them to pop positive.

Edit: not sure why I assumed they were smoking reefer. But I assumed.

Yea bus and trolley operators don't usually take any shit.

I once rode a trolley into 19th Street Station from West Philadelphia and noticed that after I alighted, it remained stopped in the station over a dispute between the operator and a passenger who was 'vaping'. The operator insisted that the passenger desist; the passenger seemed to be arguing that 'vaping' didn't count. I left before the situation was resolved.

I cannot myself imagine behaving so antisocially or defiantly as the passenger.