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Hopefully something artistic and not just some heartless soulless gray as the overcast sky highway metal…

Or, hear me out, reduce it to one lane in each direction and add a berm in the median. Or, even better, a light rail that connected City Hall to Manayunk.

> Are people going to drive their cars through these chains?

Yes. Yes they are.

Yeah, if they can’t make MLK Drive closures permanent, forget about Kelly.

Interesting parks and rec is installing it. They must be tired of people driving on there and ruining absolutely everything. If only people could act right on the nice parts of the city.

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I agree with you about “should.”

Lamentably, I’m giving you insight into how it actually is, or how it might be. I know it’s easy to blow me off as someone who thinks they know how it works, and, that’s partially true since admittedly I am not a PP&R budget expert, but that in itself not sufficient reason to blow me off entirely. I worked closely enough with PP&R to stand by what I said. For whatever it’s worth, my comment is an attempt to add some factual nuance to the conversation, not an attempt to muddy waters with more opinion.

I think you mean the Damn Signs

I mean I guess

Says the guy criticizing someone for possibly taking a pic while they drive.

Oh, you’re such a pessimist. I’m giving it a month.

I don’t disagree with you that poverty—of the generational variety—is endemic in Philadelphia, and I don’t disagree that the city should be spending money to try to address it, but at the same time, there are other things that benefit those of us who have chosen to live here and are not in poverty, ourselves, and we do deserve to “have nice things,” too, so to speak.

I’m only pointing out that—in my opinion—it’s not necessarily a zero sum game, so to speak. The city can prioritize funding programs to help the cities poor, but can also try to make intelligent decisions to preserve the things that attract people who aren’t poor to live here. It’s our tax money, in large part, that is helping to pay for these programs for the poor. If there aren’t good things for the non-poor, we won’t live here, and there goes a lot of the money.

I’m not sure how much money we spent for these new barriers, and their installation, but I’m going to guess that it was a surprisingly sizable amount. But if they get destroyed within a month, I view it as a waste of money. I would prefer the city spend a little bit more- even if it means taking a chunk away from some rec center—to protect Fairmount Park.

I fantasize about breaking the mirror off one of those cars and biking away on a trail lol

Will be interesting to see if the signs are picked up after the election.

Jesus! So sorry!!!!

1000%.

In 20 years of living right by Kelly Drive, and passing that way most every day, I can tell you that I virtually never saw cars parked in the grass unless it was for an official event of some sort. But during Covid—particularly on the weekends—there would be dozens and dozens of cars parked there. It really made me sad.

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Having worked regatta parking before, there are defined entrances and exits for those trailers, and I’ve only ever seen trailers use the grass for staging downriver of the Columbia Bridge (the finish line). So they could theoretically make the entrance/exit portion removable and the remainder permanent.

This feels a bit disingenuous, I believe you both see where the other is coming from.

Every new building is luxury apartments. Everyone can’t be luxury! Across the street from my gfs they’ve finished knocking down all the rowhomes, and they’re building a luxury condo building. Objectively more units, but likely above the price point of the tenants of the previous rowhome considering a unit the adjacent condo in the same area was about double the cost of one of the townhomes. More housing, but frequently pricing out previous residents. Feelings on both ends

Agreed, but no one in City Hall has the political will to even start that conversation.

I mean if we just extrapolate that to the actual potholes...

Closing Kelly Drive to cars would be nicer

Couple bags of quikrete will show em

Those are called “ron jeremys”