Before the Bridget Foy's fire (relevant only for dating purposes) every window had signs in it promising an "Heirloom" coming soon. I assume Giant bought out all the retail and then changed their minds.

I'm pretty sure there were "coming soon" signs for something else there too. Last I checked theyre plain signs now.

I live near here and was recently wondering the same thing so I did some research and found some old newspaper articles about it. It seems it always struggled to consistently attract customers and eventually was demolished. It seemed very cool and modern though. You can still see the old "New Market" sign on the side of the Cavanaugh's Headhouse building.

I couldn't find many photos of it aside from grainy newspaper images. I wish it was more documented.

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I got one as a kid outside the zoo. It was Memorial Day Weekend 2008. That turtle is still alive, is female (has laid eggs), and is named Shelley. She's pretty cute and lives in my grandfather's spare bathtub in the winter, and a stock tank in the backyard in the summer. I would not recommend having a red eared slider or really any turtle as a pet to anyone that doesn't already like herps... like a lot.

Edit: I also specifically wouldn't buy a street turtle, like others have mentioned there's a big Salmonella problem, unethical breeding, and they're illegal to own as they're an invasive species

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lucky, all i got was turtles and ket pushers

I've been wondering the same thing while watching the ground level retail move out one by one over the last decade with no replacements.

I'm definitely getting into the little moat on the lawn, for sure. See you there!

Yeah it's Philly based. It was a trip going from Mann to MPP, and seeing ZERO tanks. MPP doesn't fuck around with the nitrous idiots, and it's so nice.

I was able to get into the moat on N2 under the bridge! Sound was much better. The breeze during that Tela was also well timed. Definitely going to be in the moat this run, see you there!

It used to be New Market. I remember going to the Rusty Scupper seafood restaurant there (on the Front Street Side) some time in 76 or 77. I also remember there were a number of retail merchants and artisans on the first and 2nd floor levels. Dickens Inn anchored the Head House side of New Market as well.

society hill loan at 7th and south tends to get a good selection of gear.

TY! I was trying to look for some info and just couldn’t find it!!

Yeah I’m sure only phish fans litter at concerts. Roots picnic is probably absolutely pristine.

Mann is so much better for Phish with a better lot and the whole not driving/ferrying situation. And the updated lawn speakers are much better IMO.

See you on lot fam

Because the mann is the best venue in the city

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Not if you make it into soup. Mmmmm, turtle soup

Yeah does the nitrous mafia run out of Point Breeze? I know they are based somewhere in Philly. Tanks are going to be huge regardless of venue in Philly.

Anyways, 3 for $20 no deals.

Yeah as much as I appreciate the bus loop for the Mann, the transit is shitty compared to Camden. Sure Camden sucks, but there is always a huge crowd to and from the concerts to Patco.

Love the Skyline Stage. It's so nice to be able to pay the same price to be able to either hang out on the grass in the back or get right up front on the rail if you want to.

Phish is not at all unique for fans leaving trash in the parking lots/surrounding area. Not excusing the littering, but it happens everywhere. Take a look at what it looks like after, say, a Kenny Chesney show.

As far as the balloons go, wooks gonna wook.

I know someone who bought some red sliders in this manner. They are Philly turtles with a Philly attitude straight up, one ended up eating the other while they had abundant food and space.

Edit: Posted this tragedy to just let everyone know, think before you buy street turtles. They are a big responsibility.

Same here! I just Googled it, and the main result was: Freedom Mortgage Pavilion (formerly BB&T Pavilion). The name of this place seems to change every other month.

The trick for the Mann is to just hang out in the moat between the lawn and pav if you have lawn tickets. As long as you're okay with standing and can get there early enough, it's a great view. I did that for Phish N2 last year and it worked out pretty well. I was lucky enough to score actual seats in the main section for the Tweezerfest N1, which as you mentioned was absolutely face-melting.

I think the nitrous tanks are just a problem everywhere, but the lot scene tends to be so cramped at the Mann that they're all on top of each other and it makes it seem worse.