Recent comments in /f/philadelphia

Unfamiliar_Word t1_j9vziaq wrote

If I had an organ that was dedicated to cost benefit analyses... which I suppose would be my brain, so this sentence is off to a great start... it would explode at this point.

The Inquirer article about this recent development, a recent interview General Manager and CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICE OMFG SLAY QUEEN Richards and online discussion have all mentioned the Roosevelt Boulevard Subway. Whether it's entirely reasonable or not, a narrative might be emerging that casts it and KoPRail as in opposition. I think that this could be a good thing, because at the very least, SEPTA deserves to be smacked upside the head for its poor decision making about major capital projects. It's riders deserve the Roosevelt Boulevard Subway, but that will be harder, if more worthwhile, to deliver.

I will at least take satisfaction in fantasizing about how Jay Arzu, Representative Solomon and the remarkably effective movement that they have started for the Roosevelt Boulevard Line are giving the senior managers and members of the board of SEPTA ulcers. The best revenge, of course, will be that it actually gets built. (Some relatively encouraging news: Rebecca Rhynhart hasreportedly come out in favor of the Roosevelt Boulevard Subway)

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Meghistaken t1_j9vxrac wrote

Yeah, pre-COVID I totally got the rationale of connecting the third largest employment center in SEPA with the first and second largest employment centers. My office is in University City and I regularly commuted on the NHSL for over a decade. I like the high speed line; it's timely, efficient, and not expensive like regional. I don't even care about transferring at 69th Street. But I go into the office maybe once a month now. The NHSL station lot near my house definitely has more daily commuters parking again but it doesn't look like it's back to pre-COVID levels. I dunno, I guess what's going to happen is going to happen. I'm neither for nor against the expansion. I'm a NHSL fan but meh.

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hoobsher t1_j9vxlnp wrote

10,000 daily riders * 365 days = 3,650,000 riders per year * $5 per fare = $18,250,000 fare per year

$3,000,000,000 cost to finish / $18,250,000 fare per year = 164 years and 4 months to break even on fares, not counting maintenance costs

i'm onboard (hah) for viewing public rail investments as a cost of internal improvement rather than as return on investment equity...but this is such a useless addition to the existing rail infrastructure and the cost of it has to be looked at like this. it's a frivolous investment, nothing else to be said

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sixplaysforadollar t1_j9vwuwu wrote

yeah for sure. i've lived in KOP for a long time, these suburbs are still growing so quick from the bleed in from cities.

there's negotiation to build rail stops in Royersford, reading and few others as well that would go into the city.

I can't pretend to speak on the finances etc of this rail project, but from a regular dudes opinion im all for it if it makes getting to the city and places easier than driving

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porkchameleon t1_j9vwbpd wrote

I remember when they were building the whole place years ago when I was going to the 40th Street to watch movies in a movie theatre. The whole "architecture" is a vomit into the face of the immediate area, and that "bar" sounds like a proper fit for what the whole thing is (I actually walked by it numerous times and didn't even realize it was a watering hole).

My verdict: nothing of value was lost.

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