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So fucking stupid. People from the burbs aren't going to transfer in Upper Darby and take the asphyxiation express El to go out to dinner or shopping in Center City. Who is the target market for this line?

Political punching bag that is a vastly underrated place to live?

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Fucking ridiculous

I'm going to try that at my job.

In the basement, next to Delaware Ave, which floods twice a year. That would be hilarious.

Word is that scenario 2 is by far the most popular plan based of polls septa has done.

When the R6 runs, you can get from Manayunk station to Market east in less then 20 minutes if there's no hold ups, and 25 with moderate hold ups.

That's on par with trolleys from deeper in west Philly getting to 13th st. Except the added benefit of 0 car traffic.

That's a bummer. My friends like their seltzers so we were thinking of checking it out sometime, but it looked pretty expensive.

I'm looking at the menu now, and yeah they're offering $7 seltzers in a 12 oz can. Just the same shit you can pick up at the store. They have two on draft, but it's the same price and seems like a 12 oz draft as well. Their cocktails, beer, and food are all pretty pricey as well.

Their "special" is a burger and fries and a seltzer for $22. How the fuck is that a deal?

God that would be amazing. Relying on 2 buses and biking is difficult as is. It would go a long way making Manayunk/Rox feel more apart of the city.

I don't even bother with the R6, it's so infrequent and costs double other methods. Plus lugging up and down a hill

I always ask upfront, fuck their sneaky tactics.

I am not cheap, but I like money.

This is going to be a billion dollar boondoggle. Rail should link KOP but they should have done it by making the regional rail connect along 422 vs using the high speed line.

It’s costing a fortune due to NIMBYism and having to weave along I-276 when they could have negotiated right of way access with the existing RR line.

Damn

I've got a sense that the feds may take a look at it again and deny the funds, plus the state has to kick in too. Dunno if I see that happening. I'd hope that a shift to a BLVD subway would be a nice shiny carrot for the feds to fund, as it would carry 100k riders a day by the estimates from 20 years ago. Probably many more now

As this article shows, there's outside money getting these people out. The person that allegedly committed this act got someone to randomly loan 75k so he could be free. That's mind blowing given the crime he is charged with.

Very unfortunate the Schuylkill Valley Metro plan failed in the early 2000s. Could’ve avoided this boondoggle while easing the possibility of Amtrak expanding their services to Reading by renovating the tracks ahead of time…

Subway to Roxborough like the city originally intended. For Manayunk they should do the absolutely possible thing of turning the R6 into a metro line, like what's shown for the Reimagining regional rail scenario 2.

15 minute all day trains with trains that have at least 3 entrances, El style seating, and entrances that are platform level. Boom Manayunk elevated subway made.

True, they still have to get approved for a bond lol also I doubt they just have 75k laying around. Let them rot in jail, maybe someone will cut them up

Remember when rocky ran down that area there was nothing there. Ironically, the population do the city was bigger in 1970, 1920 etc. I wonder what was a better quality of life, larger household and more overall open space, or smaller households and no where for people to live.

Yeah he probably thinks a parking garages would reduce traffic or something. Also Fishtown was never meant to be a suburban car town that people commute from. People used to walk to the other side of Front and work in the factories.

With things like WFH I do not think Fishtown should be trying to attract car owners as residents. I’d rather more business density to offset the need to travel outside the hood.

>I can’t imagine an expansion of those highways would’ve been a cheaper alternative and folks who live in the towns (or nearby) where they plan on having stations have been lobbying for regional rail for years.

I think this is a far more reasonable assessment than most. But the alternative highways would be federal dollars. I seem to recall some discussion of one of the recent omnibus bills including these funds and hopefully they're coming from there.

Yeah, the cost ballooned due to concessions made to those developers who don't really want this.

Wouldn't this help with 76 traffic. If this KOP extension happens, it seems like it would be a good central hub for bus/ shuttle services to the many employers along the 76 cooridoor (like up in Malvern and further along... lots of big companies with lots of people who live in the city and commute daily, I could see a lot of them being interested in this line)

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