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harbison215 t1_j9to0xn wrote

The same constitution you mention about a speedy trial also gives defendants a right to build a case, even if there is video evidence. I don’t think you’re 100% wrong, but a system that judges it’s evidence and then determines what kind of trial to have based on that evidence would not be a good system overall.

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nayrb1523 OP t1_j9tnr94 wrote

All of the options are bad, and legit this is completely disheartening to see which chuckle fucks are the "top four". No one with a spine will win (are there any spines in Council anyway?) and the bullshit of councilmanic prerogative will live on for another decade+. The city needs a reboot with the incoming mayor and holy shit, thinking of Kenyatta fucking Johnson as Council President does me in.

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harbison215 t1_j9tng60 wrote

Faulty logic that undermines every law ever made. Murders don’t follow the murder laws, rapist don’t follow the rape laws, so I guess those laws are useless as well?

And the fact is, the largest worldwide studies conclude that some very simple, nationwide changes to gun laws have reduced gun violence in other countries by significant amounts.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2016/2/29/11120184/2016-gun-control-study-epidemiologic-reviews-deaths

https://www.science.org/content/article/three-types-laws-could-reduce-gun-deaths-more-10

None of the proposed laws would restrict would be gun owners from purchasing guns. Just like having to register your car and get a license doesn’t actually restrict people from owning and driving cars. What it does do is link people to their weapons and make them more responsible for what happens to their guns. Responsible gun owners don’t make straw purchases and they don’t “lose” their guns or have their house broken into and their guns “stolen.”

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illy-chan t1_j9tn71o wrote

Thought that too. It's buzzword vomit without any sort of hard definition on what they actually do.

From other sources, it looks like they probably posted the bail because they're anti-cash bail but damned if you could guess that was a stance of theirs from their website.

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espressocycle t1_j9tm4h1 wrote

Our system is one in which you are innocent until proven guilty. The purpose of bail is to ensure the accused show up for their trials, not ensure pretrial detention. If the accused is deemed too dangerous to release on bail, then no bail of any amount should be offered.

The real scandal here is how long these cases take. The constitution calls for a speedy trial. These kids are on video killing a man. There's no need to spend months putting together a case when you have incontrovertible proof of guilt. These kids should be convicted already.

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ramvan t1_j9tlry7 wrote

The thing that always gets me about what you said is that those guns didn’t just appear out of midair, someone legally bought them and possessed them before the teens did. We need much better tools for pursuing straw buyers or sellers (presumably mostly private and not FFLs) who sell guns to teens and people who’d fail a background check. That should be the highest priority law enforcement action for reducing gun violence.

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