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NetQuarterLatte t1_jcd5vfp wrote

Reply to comment by matzoh_ball in Study shows those released under NY's bail reform laws are less likely to get rearrested by mowotlarx

>If they commit crime after crime then they'd eventually be convicted

Not if they never show up to trial.

>and put in jail

That depends on the crime.

For example, if someone keeps playing the knock out game and never seriously injury anyone, that will be a misdemeanor assault at best, and that person can avoid jail forever.

>So the idea that the lack of pretrial detention creates all these repeat offenders is bogus.

I don't think any law creates repeat offenders. That's not my position.

However, the law should be able to stop repeat offenders.

And there are clear loopholes right now.

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elizabeth-cooper t1_jcd3gjn wrote

Reply to comment by matzoh_ball in Study shows those released under NY's bail reform laws are less likely to get rearrested by mowotlarx

They don't want to be clear because the actual facts aren't nearly as bad as they're trying to make them sound.

I found what I cited above. As you can see from the chart, "arrested and not incarcerated" and "incarcerated 6 months or less" had nearly identical employment rates.

https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2019/employment-of-young-men-after-arrest-or-incarceration.htm

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matzoh_ball t1_jcd1fql wrote

Reply to comment by elizabeth-cooper in Study shows those released under NY's bail reform laws are less likely to get rearrested by mowotlarx

Good catch! Yes, kinda makes sense that they’d only report the percentages of people who lost their job of people who had a job in the first place. Still, could be made more clear in their write up.

So, regardless of the job issues stat, it seems they base those likelihoods on the number of ppl who had a job at time of arrest:

> Over one in five participants who were employed at the time of arrest (n=1,031) were no longer employed when they were interviewed (n=219)

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elizabeth-cooper t1_jccuvwz wrote

Reply to comment by matzoh_ball in Study shows those released under NY's bail reform laws are less likely to get rearrested by mowotlarx

You didn't read that correctly, but it's not your fault, they deliberately wrote it in a confusing way.

They interviewed 1,500 people and 500 were not employed in the first place.

510 people out of 1,000 reported "issues" with their job. Among those issues, 27% reported being fired. That means 138 people reported being fired out of 1,000, which is 14% of employed arrestees. Which means 86% did not lose their jobs.

That 20/35% is likelihood of losing their job, not the percent of people who did lose their job.

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Silvery_Silence t1_jccst0s wrote

Reply to comment by bkornblith in Not Even This City Councilman Can Find an Apartment in New York City by CactusBoyScout

People thinking $150k is a ton of money here is kinda funny. He could have a lot of debt, taxes take a huge chunk. I’m not saying cry me a river if I make around that but it is NOT like you are set for life if you make that salary here. Trust me. (I admittedly didn’t read this yet). $150k for a family of three is middle class here yes I’ve looked.

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