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NetQuarterLatte t1_jccpv4x wrote

Reply to comment by matzoh_ball in Study shows those released under NY's bail reform laws are less likely to get rearrested by mowotlarx

There's a loophole here though. First, trials don't happen in a timely manner when the defendant is on the street.

Second, if the defendant never shows up for trial, they can never get convicted.

So a person committing petty theft, for example, can do that forever as long as they never show up for trial, under the current laws.

A person committing misdemeanor violence (like playing the knockout game) can also do that forever as long as they never show up for trial.

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matzoh_ball t1_jccmp82 wrote

Reply to comment by pirepori in Study shows those released under NY's bail reform laws are less likely to get rearrested by mowotlarx

Dude I just corrected a minor detail, not defending or criticizing any policy here.

FWIW, in the scenario you refer to, my question would be why that guy hadn’t been sentenced to jail or prison for smashing someone’s head in. Bail reform has literally nothing to do with sentencing guidelines so your hypothetical scenario wouldn’t have anything to do with bail reform.

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StrictDare210 t1_jccknyt wrote

Reply to comment by wateringtheflowers in Study shows those released under NY's bail reform laws are less likely to get rearrested by mowotlarx

I can assure you that to the people who aren’t rotting in Riker’s and/or getting rearrested (disproportionately impoverished minorities) the VFO statistic is not the only one that matters. And even if it is, you should be reading it a little more closely than you are before your race to undermine it. VFO was not up across the board and bail reform does not have to be the one band aid that makes it all go away. You concluded that the headline could be some other categorical statement because you’re lacking nuance, but in the other direction.

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ManhattanRailfan t1_jccj92f wrote

Reply to comment by WickhamAkimbo in Study shows those released under NY's bail reform laws are less likely to get rearrested by mowotlarx

Dude, whether the data is accurate or not is irrelevant. The conclusion you're drawing from it cannot be drawn with that data alone. You're making way too many assumptions.

And yes, a person can be in poverty, but if they have a stable source of food and housing, then they're in much better shape than someone who doesn't technically fall below the poverty line but goes hungry every night so their kid can eat. These concepts shouldn't be particularly difficult to grasp.

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FLHCv2 t1_jcciem7 wrote

Reply to NYC Mayor Eric Adams faces thousands in fines for potential campaign finance violations by hau5keeping

GENUINE question: Is there anything redeeming about this guy? Can someone brave enough to post publicly tell me why they like him?

I've only been in New York for a year now and it's wild how I haven't heard a single thing about this dude outside of reddit after he was elected. The more I read, the more I realize he blows, but it's also concerning that Reddit is the only place I ever hear about him, for good and bad reasons. Good because I'm getting exposure, bad because it could mean heavy bias but also bad because it feels like no one in my circles is paying attention.

But no one paying attention is probably why the city traditionally gets a terrible mayor that no one likes.

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matzoh_ball t1_jccdvii wrote

Reply to comment by elizabeth-cooper in Study shows those released under NY's bail reform laws are less likely to get rearrested by mowotlarx

FWIW, there is a study on that, which uses survey data that was collected between 2019 and 2021: https://www.nycja.org/publications/the-initial-collateral-consequences-of-pretrial-detention

If you scroll a bit down on that page, you'll see an interactive bar chart that shows that 20.1% of respondents who were arrested and not detained at arraignment lost their job compared to 35.0% of respondents who were arrested and detained at arraignment.

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