Recent comments in /f/nyc

Rottimer t1_jc5jewr wrote

Deadly force is a last resort where your life or the life of another is in danger of ending and you or they cannot get away. The problem with this is that people with guns get it in their head that anything can put their life danger - “that guy called me an asshole and is staring me down, what if he punches me and I hit my head on the pavement and die? Time to pull out the gun and start blasting!!!”

There is also the issue with population density and the fact that bullets don’t care about your intent. NYPD cops know this first hand as a number of police involved shootings have harmed innocent bystanders. More guns in this city, legal or otherwise, will result in more gun deaths.

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harlemtechie t1_jc5j9oz wrote

I'm not excusing racism or beating up kids, but that's another EXTREME TYPE of vulnerability. Lil man probably didn't even know what was going on other than knowing someone was being hostile to him. Stop trying to be mad to be mad until you been around someone autistic. Someone like that isn't gonna ask for help if theyre dying.

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Odins-Enriched-Sack t1_jc5i46s wrote

>As shitty as this situation was, it doesn’t look like anyone ended up in the hospital.

Do you think there is a limit to the amount of damage you should receive before you can use a gun?

>But introducing a gun in this situation may have put someone in the morgue. That would absolutely be a worse outcome even for assholes like these.

At what point do you think that someone should not be concerned with the well-being and safety of their attacker?

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Rottimer t1_jc5drdz wrote

As shitty as this situation was, it doesn’t look like anyone ended up in the hospital. There were broken glasses, a bloody lip and probably a bruised ego. Those kids should absolutely be arrested. But introducing a gun in this situation may have put someone in the morgue. That would absolutely be a worse outcome even for assholes like these.

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Rottimer t1_jc5cu30 wrote

With a group of teenagers, call 911 or tell the conductor so they can call the police.

If it’s a station where police are stationed then I wish I could tell you to go get the police, but that usually ends with some smarmy comment from the cops about “so why didn’t you do something about it?” They’re more likely to respond through “official” channels.

What you don’t want to do is get involved on your own. If you’re in your 30s or older, the fact is that teenagers are often faster, stronger and have a lot less impulse control than you. They won’t mind beating the shit out of you and running away. If it’s you and a couple of other guys, then maybe you can intervene.

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banjonyc t1_jc591fw wrote

Negative in a big way. I'm a supporter of second amendment and if we were country that had extensive background checks I would definitely feel more comfortable. The issue that I really have with so many people being armed is that something as simple as harassment or even a fight which would end up with most people walking away winds up with someone dead or bystanders shot and killed. The last thing I want to be is stuck on a subway train with some lunatic firing their gun. If someone pulls the emergency brake, the car stops and you're literally stuck there.

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Vegetable-Double t1_jc4zki1 wrote

Always been the case. I’ve been taking the subway and bus almost everyday of life for over 30 years. Starting from junior high school, through high school, college, and my career.

I got jumped on the train in both high school and junior high by groups of teenagers for no reason (this was late 90s). I got harassed by groups of teenagers even as an adult. Not saying all groups of teenagers are bad, but being part of those groups of teenagers myself at some point, the peer pressure and need to look cool in front of others makes you do dumb shit. Nothing annoys me more, even now, than seeing a group of rowdy teenagers on the bus or subway. I know they are kids and I let it slide, especially being in that position myself once. But, even if a bystander stepped in, he or she would risk getting attacked too.

Also, anyone bringing race into it is stupid. The same stuff happens regardless of the race or location of the kids. Even in the suburbs, groups of unsupervised teens are the worst.

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