And here you are, nitpicking over minutiae instead of taking a step back and actually comprehending what I'm saying. You're just as bad as those who are pro-gun.

Lower ridership for now, longitudinal seating is never coming back.

Also construction started before COVID even hit, it was way too late to change the design even if they wanted to.

These are not open gangways unfortunately. You'll be trapped in a car with that mess.

I'm not. NYC should enter the 20th century. I do not like being trapped on a car with crazy people or nasty stuff.

N should get these eventually, the initial order is going to A/C trains iirc

F/G/R have R160s which still have decades of service life left

How is it cool looking? Its another tin can with LEDs. The bright yellow is repulsive.

That's my favorite part. It was never about the environment or reducing traffic

They're already looking to use the congestion revenue to guarantee new financing. That doesn't sound like they expect it to keep drivers off the island

You said the quiet part out loud. We know this isn't about the environment

I would like to subscribe to your train facts

I know I'm washed because the first thing I thought reading this is was that it was a sly reference to a Velvet Underground song

Was to see the F1 or Davie504?

It's 3 union watchers for each union worker all the way down, hence the price tag.

Yeah, agreed.

As a millennial in City service, my retirement plan is to die in the climate wars

I definitely agree selling out the new hires is not productive, but I am speaking of anyone that is currently employed (not retired), including senior staff. Those who are still employed have an option to leave. Those who are retired usually have limited options to work/ change careers.

> At least allow them to keep it, and new retirees will have to deal with Medicare advantage. Unfair to change the rules after the fact.

But this attitude is what led to Tier 6 in the first place. The system is broken but continuing to fuck over the younger crowd is worse than spreading the misery.

How is that being negative? We’re absolutely positive that the floor will be pooped on.

The numbered lines and lettered lines have different dimensions. You will never see this on a numbered line train. That will be an entirely different car order.

That's a ploy. Cuomo shows up to hide the fact that he was in on it and he can pretend he's the good guy exposing the abuse.

The thing you linked to is for testing PTC which is a type of signalling.

Today was the first day of revenue testing on the R211s - they have to run trouble free in customer service for 30 days before transit fully accepts delivery on them - as of right now they still technically belong to the manufacturer. Any sort of glitch restarts the clock. The R179s which are the other "new" trains running on the A and C (and J) lines had lots of teething problems so you want the bugs worked out before you take delivery on a bunch of trains.

To put it in perspective, these R211 cars have been on property for 2 years doing various tests with nobody on the trains, training crews on the new equipment, etc before getting to this point.

The 211Ts which are the open gangway cars only came on property fairly recently - so they too have to do the empty testing first.

The issue is all the unknown unknowns under ground. Nyc is a maze of underground infrastructure, much of it ancient, orphaned tunnels and wire and pipe, and whose builders aren’t even around anymore. There isn’t even a unified map, they’re just starting to collate and digitize what fragments they have, but, this being ny, it’s a slow, tedious process full of red tape, inter factional dick measuring, government incompetence and refusal to talk to anyone in another office of the same department, let alone outside agencies or industry.

I’ve been saying for years that we need a single, central, searchable database for everything under our feet here. Something we can collate into a 3d cad map.

Obviously they’re dead since they lived in the 18th century. why is the fact that they were white a strike against them?

Nah, the A is pretty chill in Manhattan

When are they expecting to implement it in the 2,4,5,6, B and D lines ?