People who resort to bringing up nationwide incarceration rates when stating X NYC violent offender should have never been free to commit another violent crime. They may be absent in this particular thread but I have dealt with plenty of them.

Then if you want to go beyond reddit. People in positions of power and/or with a following in regards to criminal justice. Tiffany Caban does not think this guy should be locked up. Advocates with a following (like rebecca kavanaugh, Adam Johnson, Scott hechinger) don’t think this guy should be locked up.

Gee I wonder why mods hid this post for 22 hours and it’s at 64% upvoted? This sub is usually very outspoken about hate crimes

Ha ha! I love that people are upvoting your little fantasy. That's not happening. The motors are required to cut out at 20 mph. However, some users modify them to bypass that limit at a cost. An e-bike going 40 mph on a decent battery is only going to have a range of about 8 miles on a full charge.

>I mean Rikers is some fucking sub-third-world nightmarish shit. I'd rather go to jail in China.

You say that, but I promise you don't actually mean it

That’s a stupid law that should not be in place

Because people cry about solitary confinement or CO’s using force. The CO’s can absolutely take control, but they’re not allowed to by policy.

When you bunch of worthless violent shitheads with nothing to contribute to society and lock them in a hole, did you think they were going to become a beacon of the society that rejected them, or just continue their violent disgusting ways?

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People who say that have never been in a political jail. Human rights are a suggestion over there

You and I see the problem very differently. Correct me if I’m wrong, but you look at this incident and wonder why he was not remanded to jail until his trial. I look at this and wonder why he still hasn’t been tried after 4 years.

You look at this as advocating for constitutional rights of defendants. I look at this as advocating for everyone’s constitutional rights. Though I admit I’m biased because I’m black and far more likely to be wrongfully convicted of a crime. So I take those constitutional rights seriously. I don’t have the privilege to poo poo them in an effort to feel safe.

That’s it?

Queens blvd. and several similar roads (Linden blvd, kings highway, etc) were proposed to be built around light rail however Robert Moses opted to design them so that public transit could NEVER be added. This design only served wealthier single family suburbanites who would then drive their cars everywhere, creating more traffic. So it’s not really what queens blvd was but more what it could have been.

Also pedestrian bridges are hugely inconvenient and tunnels always become disgusting/dangerous.

Our legal system, especially for sex crimes, has a ton of issues. Remember, the NYPD's sex crimes unit is even currently under federal investigation for how badly they handled investigations/reports of sex crimes, including filing wrong complaints, not doing even basic investigations or convincing victims not to report their sexual assault because detectives didn't want to do the work.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/following-years-of-complaints-justice-department-to-probe-nypd-sex-crimes-unit.

https://apnews.com/article/crime-police-new-york-sexual-assault-5c515e3b034e1e937689f37a063adb61.

Then add in that judges and prosecutors tend not to take sex crimes seriously either, and you've got situations like this.

Good. Fuck this guy.

Even video evidence can be questionable. There was a black man arrested for robbing places because his own mother turned him in after thinking she recognized him in video footage on the news.

Turns out it was a white man in a realistic mask.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/white-man-lifelike-black-mask-evade-arrest-robberies/story?id=12288529

>2019 was before covid and before bail reform.

I was not talking about the bail reform, but I noticed this pattern where someone would inject a non sequitur defense about the "bail reform", and draw the attention of the most rabid bullies in the sub.

I'm going to start calling that out.

>So I’m curious what you think people are burying their head in the sand about.

Since you're curious, I'll be more specific: advocates have been ignoring that our government is doing a bad job at preventing preventable violence and delivering justice for the victims.

Many of those victims end up in a more disadvantaged position than most people who is spending any time at Riker's recently (TBH, it's not a high bar, because even people who stay at homeless shelters are at greater risk of death than people who stay at Riker's...). The two victims from this one guy are condemned for life with that trauma.

I think it's fine to advocate for the constitutional rights of the defendants. When are we going to prioritize the victims?

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I thought NYC had a ‘must accept cash’ law passed not too long ago? How would this circumvent that? Or am I mistaken?

And what’s the crime rate for the state compared to other states? It’s not like incarceration rate is inversely correlated with the crime rate - otherwise Nee Orleans would be one of the safest cities in the country instead of one of the most violent.

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good job NYC liberals!

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Who exactly is arguing that guilty violent offenders shouldn’t go to jail?

That's not true, some buildings' management already handle this without a blanket ban. You can allow people to register their devices with the building, check for reputable brands and UL-listed components, and educate with rules and flyers throughout the building (that define where to charge, how to not use extension cords, be present while charging, etc).

I would also say that it's pretty easy to identify crapware from reliable batteries. Fly e-bikes, generic AliExpress stuff, cheap conversion kits, you can see those outright. Brands such as Lectric, Ride1up, Rad Power, are all solid. Scooters such as Razer or Ninebot, good. No-name scooters and hoverboards, bad.

2019 was before covid and before bail reform. So I’m curious what you think people are burying their head in the sand about. The issue is why has 4 years passed and this guy not been tried yet.

He didn’t say “should”, he said “would probably”. And he’s probably right. That doesn’t make it just.