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Rottimer t1_jammqlk wrote
Reply to comment by TheAJx in NYC is more ethnically diverse, less racially segregated, report finds by Ice_Business
Then you definitely missed his point. I did not read that in his comment at all.
The_Lone_Apple t1_jammo7y wrote
Although it isn't illegal to take a person's photo in a public place, taking a photo of a woman's cleavage might lean towards harassment or having an indecent purpose to taking the photo.
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Reply to comment by marketingguy420 in Ban Corporal Punishment in Private Schools, New York Lawmakers Say by _Maxolotl
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_Maxolotl OP t1_jamm379 wrote
Reply to comment by marketingguy420 in Ban Corporal Punishment in Private Schools, New York Lawmakers Say by _Maxolotl
How have we not banned corporal punishment of children entirely, including at home, like most of the free world?
There have been tons of scientific studies about it and the conclusion is almost universally that it causes long term harm and doesn't improve behavior.
_Maxolotl OP t1_jamlw9u wrote
article:
New York State lawmakers have introduced several bills that would ban corporal punishment in private schools after The New York Times reported that students in some Hasidic Jewish religious schools have been regularly hit, slapped or kicked by their instructors.
Democrats and Republicans in both chambers have introduced at least four bills to outlaw the practice, which is prohibited in public schools but not explicitly barred in all private schools. Several lawmakers said they expect the measures to pass without opposition.
“No so-called educators or educational administrators have a right to put their hands on anyone’s kid,” said Charles Lavine, the Nassau Democrat who is chairman of the Assembly Judiciary Committee and sponsor of one of the bills. “It’s as simple as that.”
The legislation is part of a broader push by some state lawmakers to increase oversight of private schools, especially all-boys schools in the fervently religious Hasidic community, in response to the Times investigation, which revealed that those schools had received more than $1 billion in taxpayer funding while providing only paltry instruction in English, math and other secular subjects.
The failings occurred despite a state law requiring private schools to provide an education that is substantially equivalent to the one offered in public schools. The Times report, drawing on 911 calls and interviews with dozens of recent students, also showed that teachers in many Hasidic schools made regular use of corporal punishment to keep students in line during hours of grueling religious lessons.
Representatives of the Hasidic schools say that their instructors do not use corporal punishment and that any isolated incidents occur less frequently than in other schools.
Last month, during a joint legislative budget hearing, lawmakers questioned a spokesman for Agudath Israel of America, an Orthodox Jewish group that advocates for Hasidic schools. The spokesman, Rabbi Yeruchim Silber, defended the schools and said they had no tolerance for corporal punishment.
“These schools produce citizens who are well-rounded in all areas,” Rabbi Silber said. “Businesspeople, professionals, every walk of life, family life, communities that are low in crime, low in drug use.”
This week, representatives of several Hasidic schools did not respond to requests for comment.
The bills aimed at raising educational standards in religious schools include proposals that build off the state Education Department’s new regulations for all private schools. The regulations, which officials had considered for years, were adopted days after The Times investigation was published in September. They offered a road map for holding private schools to minimum standards, requiring the schools to prove they are providing a basic education or risk losing funding.
One proposal, introduced by Assembly Democrats Kenneth Zebrowski and Deborah Glick, would clarify and strengthen the state’s existing law. Another pair of bills, by Assemblywoman Linda Rosenthal, would require instruction in certain subjects, including prevention of child abuse. A third piece of legislation, from State Senator Robert Jackson, would cut off funding for any private schools that fail to certify that they are providing education in specific secular subjects like math, technology and geography.
Mr. Jackson, a Manhattan Democrat, said in an interview that he had unsuccessfully pushed the bill in previous years. He said he had long supported budget increases for public education but believed schools that accepted public dollars without providing basic instruction in reading or math were “committing a fraud.”
“If you’re receiving the money, you need to do what you said you were going to do,” Mr. Jackson said. “If not, you’re going to be in trouble.”
All the bills aimed at improving secular instruction in private religious schools face significant opposition.
In January, eight Republican members of Congress from New York State wrote a letter to Gov. Kathy Hochul asking that she not interfere with Jewish religious schools — known as yeshivas.
“We urge you to do all in your power to support and empower New York’s yeshiva schools to teach their students on their own terms,” wrote the lawmakers, including Representative Elise Stefanik.
State Senator John Liu, the Queens Democrat who is chairman of the Senate Education Committee, said in an interview that he believed that further legislation was unnecessary because state officials had handled the issue last year when they adopted new regulations.
The proposal to ban corporal punishment in private schools, by contrast, has garnered considerably more support, including from Mr. Liu and many others.
At least four such bills have been introduced, but lawmakers appear to be coalescing around one filed by State Senator Julia Salazar and Assemblywoman Emily Gallagher, both Democrats who represent Williamsburg, Brooklyn, home to some of the most insular Hasidic communities in the state. At least six other senators have signed on as co-sponsors.
The proposal defines corporal punishment as “any act of physical force upon a pupil, however light, for the purpose of punishing such pupil or modifying undesirable behavior.” It states that no teacher or school employee may use corporal punishment.
The bill is now pending in the Senate Children and Families Committee.
Another proposal, from Assemblyman David McDonough, a Republican from Long Island, defines corporal punishment to include the use of timeout rooms.
Aside from the Times articles, The Albany Times-Union reported last year on more than 1,000 instances of corporal punishment that have illegally occurred in public schools in recent years.
The Times articles sparked debate among officials over corporal punishment laws. While the law clearly says that corporal punishment is only barred in public schools and certain private schools that are registered with the state, some officials pointed out after the Times investigation that “child abuse” already was illegal under state law, and that corporal punishment could be considered abuse. The state Education Department even issued a formal opinion saying that was its interpretation of the law.
Still, several lawmakers said they believe more clarity is needed, especially as it relates to yeshivas.
State Senator Liz Krueger, a Democrat from Manhattan, said she hoped that any corporal punishment bill the Legislature passes would include clear enforcement measures and penalties for schools that break the law.
“Frankly, there have been some decent laws on the books,” Ms. Krueger said, “but they haven’t been enforced.”
TheAJx t1_jamlslb wrote
Reply to comment by Rottimer in NYC is more ethnically diverse, less racially segregated, report finds by Ice_Business
No, the poster had a bullshit point, which was "we don't more of those kind of people around."
PauI_MuadDib t1_jamlk6a wrote
I'd like to remind everyone that the NYPD cost NYC taxpayers over 121 million in lawsuit settlements last year, breaking a 5 year record. That 121 million does not include the cost of the lawsuits, only the settlements.
If you're sick of your tax dollars being flushed by the NYPD then email/call your senator and ask them to support NY Senate Bill 182, which would repeal Qualified Immunity throughout NYS.
https://www.nysenate.gov/find-my-senator.
Take 5-10 minutes out of your day and contact your senator. The bill's sponsor, Sen. Robert Jackson, has said Dems are prepared to use their supermajority to override Hochul's veto if it comes to that. So every vote will count.
Call, email, tweet, whatever. Just let them know to look into supporting NY SB 182.
Let's hope the NYPD doesn't break this same record in 2023.
Southie31 t1_jamkdvn wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in NYC is more ethnically diverse, less racially segregated, report finds by Ice_Business
I’m guessing it has more to do with the cost of living 🤷♂️.
Magali_Lunel t1_jamk9v8 wrote
Reply to comment by _Maxolotl in Ban Corporal Punishment in Private Schools, New York Lawmakers Say by _Maxolotl
I'm Jewish, but I can offer that the Catholic schools in my Community no longer use corporal punishment, they stopped in the 1980s.
marketingguy420 t1_jamk5n7 wrote
... one of those "how have we not done that already" type of deals
[deleted] t1_jamjruh wrote
Reply to comment by _Maxolotl in Ban Corporal Punishment in Private Schools, New York Lawmakers Say by _Maxolotl
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_Maxolotl OP t1_jamjn2f wrote
This article is exclusively focused on Yeshivas. But do private Catholic schools in NY still use corporal punishment, too?
OliviaBenson_20 t1_jamj7zb wrote
Reply to comment by pyspark2020 in NYC is more ethnically diverse, less racially segregated, report finds by Ice_Business
Lies
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Reply to comment by 139_LENOX in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
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[deleted] t1_jami5o6 wrote
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cC2Panda t1_jami0w5 wrote
Reply to comment by Everyoneeatshere in NYC is more ethnically diverse, less racially segregated, report finds by Ice_Business
At the very least it takes a concerted effort not to fall into segregated cliques. There are social groups that actually do tend to be more diverse but they tend to be considered outsiders. Like when I was younger the mix of teens hanging out at Chinatown Fair playing Capcom vs SNK 2 with each other was way less segregated on race and instead just a group of gamer geeks.
[deleted] t1_jamhtyy wrote
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Rottimer t1_jamgqbs wrote
Reply to comment by sakura5215 in NYC is more ethnically diverse, less racially segregated, report finds by Ice_Business
The lack of diversity at public schools in the UWS is by design. There are very overcrowded schools in Harlem, with majority black students that borders the UWS. When DeBlasio’s DoE floated relieving that overcrowded school by redrawing the districts so some of those black students would be zoned for an under capacity UWS school, the very rich parents in the UWS blew a gasket and said some not so very subtle shit about black and Hispanic kids.
The DoE backed off.
MuchWalrus t1_jamgfzn wrote
Reply to comment by Silvery_Silence in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
Thanks!
Oxylaudid t1_jamg7yc wrote
Where does the city get the money to give all these degenerate "protesters" a hand out. The only hand out they should get is a 3 hots and a cot. (SPIT!)
Rottimer t1_jamg2y3 wrote
Reply to comment by paulwhitedotnyc in NYC is more ethnically diverse, less racially segregated, report finds by Ice_Business
The point is that people complain that many of these “gentrifiers” for lack of a better term, aren’t accepting of their new neighbors and aren’t interested in getting to know them.
Rottimer t1_jamfqgh wrote
Reply to comment by TheAJx in NYC is more ethnically diverse, less racially segregated, report finds by Ice_Business
I feel you completely missed his point.
Everyoneeatshere t1_jamfmin wrote
Reply to comment by cC2Panda in NYC is more ethnically diverse, less racially segregated, report finds by Ice_Business
So what you are saying is segregated whether by choice or not
PauI_MuadDib t1_jammxwa wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
Taxpayers will pay the deductible, and the insurance will cover the rest while jacking up the premiums, which taxpayers also pay for. This cost us big.