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BRIKHOUS t1_jb74z41 wrote

Reply to comment by ux3l in Toblerone chocolate to cut iconic Matterhorn logo from packaging due to ‘Swissness’ laws by elizabeth-cooper

>so I wouldn't feel betrayed if something with a logo that looks like the Grand Canyon be made somewhere else than the US.

Fair, but not really the point. It's whether you'd think it's made in the US. If someone would think that, then it's misleading, and problematic.

>I remember from my childhod chocolate filled cookies that looked like Koalas, and I doubt they were made in Australia.

Ha, and that's because, to my knowledge, animals actually work the way you're suggesting for landmarks

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ux3l t1_jb74h8c wrote

Reply to comment by BRIKHOUS in Toblerone chocolate to cut iconic Matterhorn logo from packaging due to ‘Swissness’ laws by elizabeth-cooper

I know Grand Canyon is in the USA, but I don't associate both directly, so I wouldn't feel betrayed if something with a logo that looks like the Grand Canyon be made somewhere else than the US. I remember from my childhod chocolate filled cookies that looked like Koalas, and I doubt they were made in Australia.

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hesh582 t1_jb730f5 wrote

Reply to comment by TimeVortex161 in ‘Sick of it’: Catholic women vent frustration over sex, power and abuse by _Brandobaris_

> historical continuity (known as apostolic succession).

apostolic succession means both a lot more and a lot less than "historic continuity".

You can (and they have...) dramatically reform practices without those reforms even indirectly interfering with apostolic succession, which is about episcopal or ecclesiastical continuity and not necessarily historical continuity writ large.

You could make the doctrinal argument that apostolic continuity prevents female bishops, but I can't really see how you could extend that to anything else these women are asking for.

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chasonreddit t1_jb70xa9 wrote

Reply to ‘Sick of it’: Catholic women vent frustration over sex, power and abuse by _Brandobaris_

Ok, I'm going to jump in here. I'm speaking as a male, raised Catholic, active in the church. I will not speak to theology with which I have several issues, but my church does many very good things in our area and I support it. They don't: molest children, indoctrinate, scam money, or many other things. They do: get money to poor families, provide counseling in things like alcoholism, family violence, and promote strong families which provide better outcomes for children.

I have always said that women should be equal in the church. An entity 2000 years in the making is a very large ship to turn. But we have openly gay members and even lectors (the guys that get up there and read the first couple readings) and eucharistic ministers. Women make up half of the finance committee. They are more than half of the eucharistic ministers.

Church rules do forbid them from being priest or deacons. I have never agreed with that and hope it will change. I agree with these women. Mostly. The bit about women "dislike priests promoting political agendas, and are concerned about a lack of transparency in church governance." Yeah, well get in line, it forms way back there.

We've come a long way in just the 60 years since Vatican II. It's a big organization with a lot of conflicting views. The church can be be criticized on the same day for being overly conservative and being communist in promoting "liberation theology" in poorer countries.

If I had the answer, I would offer it. But those who dismiss the issue are painting the church with a very broad brush.

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TnYamaneko t1_jb6r6gv wrote

Reply to Toblerone chocolate to cut iconic Matterhorn logo from packaging due to ‘Swissness’ laws by elizabeth-cooper

Swiss people don't fuck with the origin of the products they buy.

Everything Swiss made will have probably a Swiss cross somewhere, if some subproduct is of Swiss origin, it's clearly stated.

I remember seeing some kind of oniony article in newspaper last year about Zweifel, local potato chips company, being in trouble because they had to re-label thousands of potato chips bags as due to bad harvest in Aargau, they had to import potatoes from Germany and they could not keep the "Swiss potatoes" label.

They could have not given a fuck but if discovered, Swiss people would consider that high treason. It's probably why it made the news in the first place.

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ackermann t1_jb6q78n wrote

Reply to comment by Rosebunse in ‘Sick of it’: Catholic women vent frustration over sex, power and abuse by _Brandobaris_

True. Although, if you’re going to reject the religion of your parents and family, that you were raised with, that opens a rather overwhelming choice about which other god you’re going to choose. There are probably thousands to pick from, different gods that humans have come up with over the centuries.

I suppose you could simply accept that god exists, but that humans don’t/can’t know anything about him/her, the “spiritual but not religious” route that’s now popular. Don’t subscribe to any particular interpretation of god. But this is probably less comforting, less appealing to many, who would prefer a more personal knowledge of god?

The god that your family raised you with, often comes with what feels like very compelling evidence: that most of your friends, family, and people you’ve come to greatly respect, all seem to agree on this particular god/religion

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