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Law_Student t1_j9243nw wrote

Reply to comment by jnmjnmjnm in Nurse accused of cutting off dying patient’s foot without permission pleads not guilty by bigmilker

You might be misunderstanding just how limited the mes rea requirement is. All that's necessary is intent to engage in the criminal act, not the intent to knowingly commit a crime. That's what the jury instructions will say, too.

So unless she can argue that she somehow didn't mean to cut off the foot and it just happened by accident, mes rea is met here. Yes, it's a very low hurdle. People can commit crimes even if they don't believe what they're doing is a crime, and they can be punished for it.

And mens rea isn't even necessary in many situations where someone has a special duty of care for a specific person. Here, a medical professional may well have a sufficiently elevated duty of care for a patient that even a failure to act could give rise to criminal liability.

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swisscriss t1_j9239ju wrote

Reply to Child labor in the United States costs $15,138 per child. by VoE_Monkey_Overlord

In my opinion there needs to be a drastic overhaul of the current laws. Currently the kids that work in my restaurant are only allowed to work a set number of hours per week, but since their parents often have second jobs I need people to cover open and close Explaining that you can't tell the nice lady from the county you're tired from working the fryolator is hard to do with someone with a third grade education

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MetalMarthaStewart t1_j920ynu wrote

Reply to Nurse accused of cutting off dying patient’s foot without permission pleads not guilty by bigmilker

I am a nurse who works in med surg at a hospital. I would never even consider this. I have seen all kinds of wounds that I personally would go another direction with treatment, but it is not my scope to decide. Perhaps the person needs to be medically stable to have a surgery. Perhaps the person themselves refused treatment for whatever reason.

FIRST OFF If anything I would contact every doctor or person in this man's care team and pester them that he needed this done, document that I contacted them and if they refused or not, etc. At most.

SECOND OF ALL if I read this correctly, it seems more than one nurse either watched this or knew it was happening and no one but like one nurse said anything?! I don't give a fuck how good of friends we are honey, I'm not risking my license and l am not risking legal action to cover up anything for you. I'm not going to willingly allow you to hurt someone. I'm going to physically stop you in the act, and still report your ass.

THIRD I don't care what this lady wanted to do, it DID NOT allow this man to die with dignity because now he is a "weird' news story, was assaulted and disfigured before his death.

I hope they give her the full time in prison. She absolutely used her position to make a judgement call that was inappropriate and took advantage of a vulnerable person unable to give consent or make decisions for themselves.

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Toolatetootired t1_j91ld1y wrote

Reply to comment by BuffaloInCahoots in Object downed by US missile may have been amateur hobbyists’ $12 balloon by Uncle_Leo93

What you are saying has merit but is missing quite a bit of detail. The one that they didn't shoot down (until it crossed the entirety of the United States) was huge and loaded with technology capable of spying on the US. These ones they did shoot down were likely hobby balloons.

So they did nothing while we were spied on; queue public outcry.

Then they wasted a lot of money and effort to blow up something to try to distract us from their inaction the first time around; queue public outcry.

The details matter.

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