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A legitimate argument against euthanasia is that it would be used as a replacement to further access to healthcare. In any country, you're never really going to see the rich use euthanasia unless they're very very old or at the very very end of palliative care because they have access to quality of life enhancing medications, physical therapy, and technology.

A country without universal access to healthcare, such as the United States, would see an inordinate amount of poor people choose euthanasia due to their inability to access healthcare. A real life "have you tried killing all the poor?"

The UN Human Rights experts have raised this concern with Canada, a government which approved of a 61 year old's medically assisted euthanasia when his only significant impairment was hearing loss...after he was checked in for being a suicide risk. European countries seem to have more stringent laws and better access to healthcare, but the solution to a lack of support for the impoverished can't be government sanctioned suicide. That has to be incredibly limited in scope.

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I would love to believe this too. And that we're all born equal and have good inside of us. But no, some humans are broken beyond repair. Just not meant for this world.

Thats quite the statistical anomaly, sorry for your loss. But yes abortions should be available for thouse who really need them and where I live at least they are. But if people where both better educated and actually used that knowledge the number of abortions would be quite dramatically reduced. I think would be a good thing.

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Milo went to college. He's a biochemist.

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Not all punks aren't idiots.

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I think my rabbis would be a little upset by being called "less religious" than Orthodox rabbis, tbh.

Hell, I'm mildly upset, it's just less funny when I phrase it that way.

It's also not quite as simple as you're suggesting, but I'll concede that there are ultra-Orthodox sects who's practices look like you're describing.

I'll grant that more conservative subsets of Judaism are more likely to have certain views of women, but I'd put to you that religious Jews are more likely to be progressive on women's rights than atheists in general, so I don't think it's fair to describe the faith as conservative with regards to women in general.

1.3 million people have top secret clearance. There's statistically some creeps in that pool.

Treasury secretary went too.

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You make it sound like suicide is an easy thing to do. It’s not. Killing yourself is mentally and physically hard. Look at all the failed suicide attempts. But it would be easier if you have someone helping you.

Yes.

I meant now, but the facility would have had barriers to implementation, because typically providers don't support suicide.

1. people can be conscious during an active heart attack and if they have a DNR you can't take life saving measures

2. someone can state they "don't want to die" before becoming unconscious in a situation where they are unconscious

Those are some examples of times when someone may be conscious but have a DNR.

Not every state allows for the same level of palliative care.

I also did not say that you had to agree to such things to do a vsed, I however did say that in places without euthanasia that this is the only option. And no matter what you have to admit it's much more cruel not only to the patient but to the care giver

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That's a crap analogy since someone who needs resuscitation isn't capable of saying "save me!". It's not possible for there to be any conflict between previously stated intention and present demand.

While there may be individuals who would want a "don't give me food/water, even if I beg for it" clause, you don't have to agree to such a thing to do VSED. And regardless of what you've signed, palliative care should be there to deal with any pain/anxiety/whatever the patient is experiencing during the dying process.

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