I understand why people don’t want to look at wind turbines from their vacation homes on the shore.

Ditto!

Want to be in NJ

I blame cell phones.

NYers drive slow in the left lane as often as people with NJ plates and theres a lot less of them here.

It's going to be funny seeing a bunch of lifted diesel trucks with "Save the Whales" stickers next to their thin blue line punisher skulls.

IMHO, I feel it’s mainly 3 reasons:

1. With many people from NY moving into NJ because of COVID, who have never had a reason to drive and suddenly they’re driving on major highways, there are many more erratic and inexperienced drivers causing traffic and accidents on the road.
2. NJ inspection stations have not failed vehicles for mechanical faults in years, instead simply checking for a CEL. This results in unsafe cars that may look fine on the outside but have no brakes, bald tires, lights out, blown shocks, etc. These all relate to longer stopping distances and major instability at speed.
3. Lastly, the general performance and sportiness of cars nowadays is truly amazing, but scary for many people on the roads. Look at the last generation Accord 2.0sport. It’s a family sedan with a quarter mile time equal to a dedicated sports car of only 10-15 years ago. Mix these all together and I feel this explains why NJ roads are the way they are.

No i didnt downvote you administrativeballs but I am tempted to now

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https://instagram.com/savelongbeachisland?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Read through any post on this page. Their hearts are in the right place (?) but my god they are a special kind of stupid.

I’m on your side here on all of that.

I would think viewing a windmill spinning off in the distant horizon while relaxing on the shore would be zen af but some ppl don't want any chill.

i mean, i didnt downvote, but def was going to if you didn't have a good reason for using the term. I'd stop using the term moving forward though. It having derogatory roots still indicates that it can just as easily hurt others. Within context, noting the condescending tone, it could easily be misconstrued.

You might think they're ugly, but I think they're cool-looking--so I'm not sure that point matters much at all.

What I do find really important is trying literally anything at all to wean this country off coal and oil! Wind turbines offer that opportunity; not saying they're perfect but I'd rather a dozen turbines over one more Deep Horizon spill.

So did you downvote me? Well when I was growing up it always referred to loud or supped up cars. Typically Hondas or fords. I didn’t mean to offend anybody. People get too tigger happy with the downvote button.

They’re ugly, but they also utterly ruin beaches when things go wrong—and they do.

I don't think anyone really objects to oil platforms only because of the way they look.

I think that’s kind of their point, it’s just worded very weirdly.

Was gonna defend you but it's a controversial term

"The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

Early usage 1917 to 1930s Examples of "rice burner" used literally, meaning one who burns rice or rice fields, as in stubble burning, date to 1917. In 1935 it appeared in a US newspaper caption in with a racial connotation, disparaging East Asian people."

Clear you didn't mean it that way but fyi

Very true. Most of them have anger problems too, lack respect, and are really rude. Well put man! I

Pausing the development for a little bit is not a bad idea though, nor would it be to pause anything else that may be causing it.

So we should mothball our entire Atlantic fleet? Warships/submarines use sonar. Hey, if you want a total stand-down of military operations on the water, then get behind that.

They wanted oil platforms close enough for us to see from the beach. Why should a windmill be any different?

Wait, so windmills didn’t give the whales cancer?

While that's certainly possible, then you'd see this same scenario occurring all around the world where sonar is used for mapping around shipping lanes and whale migratory paths. Now I don't keep up with any news with stuff like that, so maybe it has been witnessed before, but I personally would need to see this scenario being seen elsewhere to truly be on board that sonar right now off our coast is to blame. There could also be a litany of other factors around our shoreline specifically that could be attributed to it too. Cleaner waters than we've had in the past could be leading to a healthier ecosystem with more fish and shrimp-esque organisms the whales will feed on, drawing them closer to shore and into shipping lanes. I've also seen theories of disease circulating around populations off our coast, which of the organisms are tested and that's found to be the case, would be a factor then. It should certainly be looked at, and if proven to have an actual correlation with the sonar, then yes it should be addressed. I haven't looked at any data, but if there's been an increase in beachings over the last several years preceding any mapping occurring, then that would point to something else being a cause as well.