Bring back the swamp, I think it's just what a downtown needs.

New Haven in 1641, Atwater map, Wikimedia Commons

New Haven in 1640, Oviatt map, Wikimedia Commons

Source for Oviatt map: The beginnings of Yale (1701-1726) by Oviatt, Edwin, 1874-1955 (via Internet Archive)

I just learned a couple of weeks ago that a few of the streets on this map were moved, so street locations aren’t strictly accurate.

that's what things were like back then. tiny population. english people are like hobbits when in small numbers. everybody knew everybody, they'd be all up in your business

You can visit the crypt under one of the churches on the green, I believe it's the center one. When they removed the headstones many of them ended up there. You have to schedule a tour to see them however, you can't just waltz on in.

While I'm thinking of creepy things to visit, go stoop sit at the Skull & Bones house and visit the Cushing Brain Museum on Cedar St.

When we moved to New Haven in 2002 we had a party and I picked up *unsliced* pies from Bar, Modern and Pepes.

We then ripped the lids off the boxes and mixed them up so no one could tell which pie was which, and did a blind taste test.

Obviously it all depends on the tastes of the individuals at the party, but it came out:

1. Modern
2. Bar
3. Pepes

I'm also still partial to Zuppardis, am still mourning Spooners, and Yorkside is our goto when we're in the mood for Greek pie. Also, Bar often wins out because they have the best salad and I love the mashed potato pie.

This week NH gave final site approval for the long-planned “Lost in New Haven” museum that will have treasures and tid-bits from the past in a way that the current New Haven Museum (aka Historical Society) does not. It will open somewhere off Grand Ave.

I never knew it was a burial ground. So interesting that there are still so many bodies buried there. I walk through almost every day. I will show more reverence from now on. :)

That’s awesome, thanks so much for all the info. I also love New Haven and love hearing about it’s history.

A John Brockett laid out the original town plan of 9 squares & who possibly made this map or at best helped someone make this. My apologies I’m freaking getting old I guess, I once was able to rattle this stuff off the top of my head. Actually I try to blame it on the internet. I read or see so much online that it’s information overload..

Yes that’s right! Roughly 4 thousand maybe 5 remaining still & I remember that storm exposed a body!! I can’t help but wonder if the guys who moved the graves… but left the body’s are damed now. I imagine no living family members were alive by the 1800s when they moved them..

Like /r/stinkbeast666 said, this is accurate. To add, some of the bodies were moved to the basement of the Center Church. It's a pretty interesting place to visit. https://www.centerchurchonthegreen.org/history/crypt/

The water used to come up to chapel street. To this day there is still 4-5k dead body’s under the green. Still.I believe the green is 16 acres . The green was original design was to hold 144k people who would be saved by god during the 2nd coming, They built a church over a small part of the cemetery and in the basement of the church you can see the tombstones. Lee court house when they dug in the basement to install pumps, clamshells we’re found. I will post a source later as I can’t just find it this at the moment, however Thee new haven historical society does have this map. Stay tuned as I’ll find my source later & possibly tomorrow I may post up another interesting new haven green story. Personally I love new haven.

The green was a burial ground for long after this map was created. There are still bodies buried below, and a few years ago a storm knocked over a tree and revealed a few.

As for the swamp, lots of 9 Square was back filled and the harbor used to creep a lot closer. Think about if you removed long wharf and the interstate alone how close the water would be.

Old Froyo World’s lot

“Michael Wigglesworth’s father.” 🤔

Also a burial ground? A swamp? In what is now the green???

What’s the source of this map? Not doubting it’s veracity, just curious. The way places are described feels personal, not like an official map. Wondering who made it.

Sorry I was cooking, just scrape off the burnt parts

Fig doesnt usually go up like that . Guess it was whipping off buildings. Stramge.

Yeah there was a crazy convection fog. Very cool to see it roll in and roll back out a while later.

Bethany too, could barely see shit on my way to school this morning

To be clear here, I think you’re getting vilified not out of some local pride thing but because there are absolutely world class shops/artists in the area. I’d rather get work from someone like Joe Capobianco than just about anyone in any of those places.

Thick fog. Ct sometimes looks like silent hill lmao

West Haven and Branford too

That thread/pic is not pitkin st tunnel. Theres just a few loading docks and two parking garage entrances in pitkin st tunnel. Its used for commercial deliveries mostly.

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