thinking about outcomes so I figured I'll try to approach the conversation from a different perspective.....

and a very, very good idea it is. just not one to approach lightly.

Dixwell is a warzone with shots fired almost every day in the area. Glad to see developments like this.

They should be stripped of the privilege of owning and renting residential property.

what?

This is a local black run non profit that has the full support of the local black neighborhood. It receives minimal support from Yale. Adding 34 affordable units increases housing affordability. If you know of a way to fund more units without using revenue from market rate housing, then you should build those units.

In general, there is a huge body of careful empirical evidence that increasing housing supply decreases rents relative to the counterfactual world where housing is not built. Most displacement gentrification takes place in cities where demand for housing is increasing (because of new jobs, etc) and where new housing supply is restricted. Wealthier new residents then end up moving into the existing historic housing stock, pushing out the poor. This is to the great benefit of incumbent property owners, like Mandy here in NH.

Look at Cambridge MA where old three-flats built to house working families now house tech workers who pay millions per unit. This is the future that left NIMBYs want for New Haven. Huge profits for existing property owners and the poor pushed out. But the newly rich neighborhoods will be quaint and historic, how nice.

After tax rent is what percent of the average salary?

No you’re right. Starting anything like this is very risky. Agree absolutely.

I’m just putting the idea of tenant unions out there.

Go drive by some of the properties these management companies own. For the most part they look like shit, and with the stories I’ve seen I wouldn’t risk it.

Seabury Hill worked for me, I think they’re the best resource for finding a decent place. Obviously still pay attention and do your due diligence.

if it’s Norton, is this just yet another PR rebrand of Edgewood Village? i’m curious.

this would be great advice in a vacuum but this approach is plenty risky as well. check out the case the Hamden fair rent commission is handling with Serramonte if you want to see this in action.

edit: certainly not advising against forming a union here, just advising against renting from scumbags assuming a union’s formation will fix the problems. these assholes have vast resources & zero regard for human decency, & they will do everything in their considerable scummy power to slice whatever organizational tendons they can. just something to bear closely in mind.

even this is part of their business model. because of their locations & price points these companies are largely trying to target tenants who are very young and/or very under-resourced - thus people who either don’t know the law, can’t afford a lawyer, or are transient students who will give up on any standing conflicts in disgust when it’s time for them to leave the area. they figure for any successful tenant lawsuit, there’ll be twelve more tenants successfully fleeced. unfortunately they’re right.

New Haven housing code enforcement, meanwhile, has been defanged to a comedic degree that seems like it almost has to be deliberate, and they don’t or won’t do shit about it. evidently every time they do try to crack down on these companies, they just threaten to pull out of the city entirely, which at this point would be a logistical disaster, & the authorities basically slink off with their tail between their legs & look the other way for another decade. it’s a pathetic mess.

Why is this being downvoted?

Around $2000

Edit: Another source says it is $1500

add ocean management to the list of places to avoid. they’re always in court for violations. read about the tenant unions that have formed in new haven to fight against all these slumlords. new haven is a tough place to find decent landlords with affordable prices.

Average rent in New haven is ????

The median income is $24 k / $44k household in new haven. And over 20-percent poverty rate. Those numbers are about five years old, pay is probably higher now but not tons

Edit: more recent numbers. As of 2021, $29 k individual, $48k household, median incomes for New Haven per US Census

(And this comment downvoted too. Lol. Don’t talk, I get it. I’m not supposed to talk about this)

what will happen if folks go into overdrive and begin to work 40-70 hrs. per week? Find a way to share rental units to lower some expenses.

Take some earned money to hire a nutritionist, therapist, life or business coach......

Learn and win public and private contracts to hire some folks....

Eh way worth it. They ended up owing me double in damages for a security deposit they tried to never return.

Ocean was the only place in new haven that would rent to us moving from across the country to do zoom showings of that helps anyone

And that's good because

Most people who live in a city live with roommates. It’s that way in most cities across the country (or at least, any safe cities with meaningful population and jobs density).

Terrible

That's horrible if you rent here. You need to make 80-100 k to not have roommates here. Unless you get assistance.

It's not.

Agree seabury is bad, the place they got us was not cleaned at all (down to hair in the drain and pee on the toilet seats), there was trash and furniture left by the former tenants, bugs