Recent comments in /f/newhampshire
deadliftothersup t1_jajx3x9 wrote
Reply to comment by MindlessHousing in Let’s get moving NH by bluesmom913
I've posted links to meta-analyses on BMI as a predictor of various health outcomes. I'm not even coming close to scratching the surface on what is available.
deadliftothersup t1_jajwth4 wrote
Reply to comment by No_Suggestion_8234 in Let’s get moving NH by bluesmom913
Sure, I'll start with a basic muticohort mulitcountry study but it is one of the most used health metrics in population health, so I could dog up thousands depending on what you specifically want to know.
Here is a meta-analysis of 143 studies on mortality. Notice that there is a relatively wide range of where folks are not passing early, but in general, the higher the more problematic. Now if we are talking joint health, the point at which BMI is a predictor of pain is likely a lot lower than mortality for most folks.
I'd be happy to talk about the limitations of BMI as well. I've published papers on issues of self-report as well as the the bidirectional nature of some health issues with obesity, but hopefully that's at least a baseline to show that I'm not just making things up.
nina_rae_ t1_jajw1ow wrote
Reply to comment by bluesmom913 in Let’s get moving NH by bluesmom913
There are so many more robust/legit data sources for this
AvianQuill t1_jajvlc6 wrote
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I’m banking that my move from Indiana to Vermont will make me thin.
Upstairs_Ear5488 t1_jajv3kg wrote
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Hawaii saving our average
MindlessHousing t1_jajulet wrote
Reply to comment by deadliftothersup in Let’s get moving NH by bluesmom913
> BMI was designed for population health
BMI was just observational data collected by a French statistician in Paris in the 18th century. It’s not even remotely scientific
It compares mass to surface area which is absurd since the volume of a shape increases faster than the surface area and mass = density * volume
Shade_Nap0405 t1_jaju5zd wrote
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I'm partly to blame for this, damn snacks get me all the time. Trying to do better ...
No_Suggestion_8234 t1_jaju15x wrote
Reply to comment by deadliftothersup in Let’s get moving NH by bluesmom913
And you have a source for any of this?
deadliftothersup t1_jajt185 wrote
Reply to comment by No_Suggestion_8234 in Let’s get moving NH by bluesmom913
BMI was designed for population health and even blood pressure has plenty of outliers in terms of individual predictive power. Some doctors are lazy, but that's not really the fault of the metric. Anyone doing a competent exam is going to use multiple metrics anyway to assess health.
On that population scale, it's completely fine. The nation is not populated with linebackers and bodybuilders.
Although 6'6' 210lbs doesn't put you at or above 25, the category cut offs are largely arbitrary and it, like blood pressure is better thought of as a dimensional variable anyway.
Edit: because I want this to lean educational. When I've used other quick adiposity measures like waist circumference, waist to hip ratio, they all more or less have limitations on the individual level, but weren't head and shoulders better predictors of long term health compared with BMI.
Acanthaceae_Square t1_jajs2qj wrote
Reply to comment by perkinslumbago in New Hampshire ordered to phase out practice of keeping psychiatric patients in emergency rooms by greenhousecrtv
Yes. This. Just like w every other social issue, NH has known for decades this was a problem. 10 years ago a state mental health plan was developed that didn’t get carried out. NH will never do anything it should unless it’s forced. I also work in the ED and applaud this decision because DHHS is like a child who needs a parent to ensure they’re doing their homework and who’s been given way too many second chances to be trusted. Hopefully the fed court stays on them to make sure the solution is also appropriate and not another half assed smoke screen
buddaycousin t1_jajrrz2 wrote
Reply to Let’s get moving NH by bluesmom913
It correlates pretty well with pppulation age. Maine is the oldest state and NH is pretty close behind.
[deleted] t1_jajrrth wrote
Reply to comment by maxhinator123 in Let’s get moving NH by bluesmom913
I did as well, but just to look at ‘em, not climb up them like you lunatics! No worries, y’all enjoy, I get to watch all you fit people hiking up the picturesque mountains while my fat ass eats another burger.
pillbinge t1_jajqe9f wrote
Reply to New Hampshire ordered to phase out practice of keeping psychiatric patients in emergency rooms by greenhousecrtv
So fund psychiatric help for people lmao. Why not just order houses to stop burning down to save money on fire departments?
No_Suggestion_8234 t1_jajqcwx wrote
Reply to comment by AnythingToAvoidWork in Let’s get moving NH by bluesmom913
BMI charts are also incredibly outdated. You can be 6'6 and weigh 210 and it's considered "overweight"
Odd_Salary7432 t1_jajqbgf wrote
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So the majority of Americans are overweight? Holy shit
AnythingToAvoidWork t1_jajnkwa wrote
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Overweight people still hike lol
AnythingToAvoidWork t1_jajnb1e wrote
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For perspective, being 164 at 5' 8" is 24.9 BMI.
YouAreHardtoImagine t1_jajm91y wrote
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I’m honestly surprised it’s not higher.
Burger-King-Covid t1_jajlbrq wrote
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It’s winter we all be hibernating like a bear right now. Of course we’ll be a little thicker then the average Joe in California.
ThePresidentsHouse t1_jajjtks wrote
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I'm definitely bringing the average down lmao damn.
bluecollarNH t1_jajiz42 wrote
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At least we have some room on the trails yah?
Only-Geologist4652 t1_jajhu8q wrote
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Dost thou even hoist!?
maxhinator123 t1_jajhck9 wrote
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I was a bit surprised moving here. I came here for the mountains, I guess not many others did :/
No_Suggestion_8234 t1_jajfz2p wrote
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We're fat as fuck. Have you looked around?
EmeraldMoose12 t1_jajxqaa wrote
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I doubt this is accurate data