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skullrift t1_jdedqv0 wrote

The theme of the movie is absolutely amazing. What makes a human, human? When empathy is quantified and measured by machines, and its seen as morally okay to shoot down an unarmed Replicant fleeing for its life, because, it's not execution... it's retirement. "More human than a human is our motto" Tyrell says.

It makes us question our own humanity. Roy just wanted to live longer, just like humans want to live longer. Replicants want to love, and live. It makes us reflect on our experiences in our short life and see how it makes us the person we are today.

That's why I love the speech by Roy before he dies. "All these memories... gone, like tears in the rain." The symbolism and thematic elements of that final conflict are just so good.

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Joseph_Santos_Cruzz OP t1_jde720z wrote

I did not see the Replicants as humans, nor did I ever feel the morality struggle Deckard was going through. I sorta felt it when the Replicant woman who did well on the test asked Deckard if he ever killed a human mistaking it for a Replicant and it was also interesting when the CEO guy talked about developing emotions for them but I did not find empathy for their goals to have a longer life, not because of morality but because I did not find a connection to the Replicants. In a movie like Ex Machina though I really cared for the captive humanoid machine, the way they developed her character i think made these questions allot heavier and captivating and most of the movie was set in one big mansion. I don’t think the problem was the story itself, rather the execution of it. If they used the lower tempo scenes to give the viewer time to connect with at least one of them then this movie would have me captivated with these questions.

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Joseph_Santos_Cruzz OP t1_jde622z wrote

I agree it seems oftentimes movies get branded as boring cause they are not hyper flashy and full of high tempo action but I was not expecting a Rambo-style shooting fest and it still felt like the action was not rewarding and the low tempo scenes either. I mention Aliens cause it was a movie that was very captivating to watch even in the scenes where Ripley was on trial or in her apartment talking to the company employee and Military guy.

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Ok-Reflection1229 t1_jde4znx wrote

I wrote a thesis about it and before I wrote it I didn't like the movie but after I found out all the context I started liking it. Or at least respecting it. I still like Blade Runner 2049 more. But it's just because original BR is 50 years old. In that time it was visionary and it was reacting to the society and their fears back then. That's also why the new BR looks so much different, because it wasn't trying to replicate the old movie but create a new one, which reacts to this era.

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between3and20spaces t1_jde4le1 wrote

It's a combination of the source material and the vague nature of the protagonist's humanity. As he searches for the replicants, he slowly realizes they behave more human than he does leading up to an identity crisis left unresolved. Even if he's human, we're left wondering how much humanity he's lost by hunting beings that have started to truly appreciate the beautiful things in life. The multiple edits of the film are based on different production requirements and each leaves you with different questions about the nature of what it means to be human. The attention to details which may or may not be important based on your viewpoint.

Some insist Deckard is himself a replicant, based on some context clues and Harrison Ford's acting, who has been created for the sole purpose of hunting his own kind. Others insist he's just a normal human who realizes he has become cynical and jaded to humanity because of his life and job, and realizes through his final job he's wasting his life by ignoring things that bring joy.

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Arfguy t1_jde4kvk wrote

I think the look and feel of the movie and the settings is what really drives a lot of the love.

As a narrative, I found it to be really messy and unfocused. I love the look of it and there's definitely a great base to tell a compelling story, but I didn't find it to be at all compelling.

It's like Exodus: Gods and Kings, also by Ridley Scott. I watched that movie and man, is it terrible. Looks absolutely phenomenal, but WTF was the point? I don't fucking know and I don't think even Ridley Scott knew after finishing.

As an aside: I feel like the first season of Battlestar Galactica does a lot of what I think Blade Runner was trying to do.

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