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RyzenRaider t1_jacvd2t wrote

To me, it compares to the nature of their misdeeds and how much they contributed to the art form. I'll discard a shitweasel that has no talent pretty easily. It gets harder when they have amazing or unique talent, because they can offer you an experience or connection that is rare. At that point, it becomes harder to justify supporting them on rational terms.

Kevin Spacey is a fine actor, and very charismatic. But I don't think he pushed the medium in any new direction, so I don't feel all that bad or any great loss about not watching his films.

My moral dilemma is with Mel Gibson. He's an all time great movie star, an amazing actor and a fantastic director. He's also racist, sexist and antisemitic. His outbursts captured on tape are some of the most vile things you'll hear a human being say. But to play devil's advocate, he's also diagnosed with bipolar and has an extensive history of alcohol addiction. So he's prone to poor judgment and wild or unpredictable mood swings, which can include rage. Those outbursts are not necessarily things he's fully in control of. But these are also outbursts that have a continuity over time.

So with Mel, he's an amazing contributor to movie history. He's a rare breed of star, he can play any genre effortlessly, and he's made as a director one of the most truly adrenaline-pumping movies I've ever seen (Apocalypto). I want to keep watching his work. But he's acted abhorrently on several occasions, that I do wonder if I should support his work. The best way I can reconcile it is that he's not always well, and should give him some consideration due to his mental illness. He's also not taken his actions beyond words (to my knowledge). So he's no Kevin Spacey/Cosby/Weinstein with a deliberate, systematic approach to physical abuse.

I think I do draw a hard line at anyone who engages in deliberate victimization/exploitation. Predators targeting people with less power than themselves can just fuck right off.

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dittybopper_05H t1_jacugoe wrote

If you want a really subtle anti-war film about a fictional conflict, check out the original Red Dawn (1984).

WTF am I saying?

Watch the entire film. The "Wolverines" suffer 80% casualties and the only two survivors do so by running away. The "bad guys" aren't one dimensional, with the singular exception of zampolit General Bratchenko.

The one character who undergoes the most personal growth in the entire film is bad guy Colonel Ernesto Bella. He goes from being proud, to being disgusted with what he's become, and finally resolves to resign and return to his wife in Cuba. In the end, he lets Matt and Jed Eckert go, saying "Vaya con Dios" ("Go with God"), a strange thing indeed for a committed Communist to say.

Plus, don't even know if the US won the war at the end. The ending narration is ambiguous about the matter:

Erica: [closing narration] I never saw the Eckert Brothers again. In time, this war - like every other war - ended. But I never forgot. And I come to this place often, when no one else does. "... In the early days of World War 3, guerillas - mostly children - placed the names of their lost upon this rock. They fought here alone and gave up their lives, so that this nation should not perish from the earth."

The USA still survives, and the area around Calumet is apparently back in US hands, but that doesn't necessarily mean the USSR and its allies were completely thrown out of US territory, the only real way you can define a "win" when you've been invaded. Calumet was only about 40 miles behind enemy lines. USSR could still occupy much of the plain states and that ending narration would still be true.

Also, that particular ending was tacked on at the insistence of the studio, who wanted a "happy ending" unlike the ambiguous one John Milius wanted. He still managed to make it ambiguous.

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corpus-luteum t1_jacu250 wrote

Not sure but I seem to remember Pinochio crying "Papa! Papa!" was a big element of the story

That said, I think I agree. Couldn't put my finger on it, but it's likely his voice that spoiled it for me. And it just wasn't particularly scary. I remember watching this as a kid and it terrified me.

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DonnieFaustani t1_jacsoop wrote

The concept of spoiling a story is both silly and not that old. Like what, should I put spoiler warnings when discussing Shakespeare's work or when discussing Greek classics? Can I not discuss mythologies without putting a spoiler warning? Where does it end with you people? Do you think anyone back then cared about "spoilers"?

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Moffee t1_jacsmhs wrote

Bruce Willis ripping the car door off in Unbreakable. For what it is its such a quiet film but in that moment I remember the music ramping up which drives a lot of the panic and emotion. Also I think he does it relatively effortlessly and it just sort of, happens? It's just there so you know he's always had this strength and he's just gotten on with his life with that knowledge.

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Moffee t1_jacs1nx wrote

I haven't kept up with any of his films outside of Hollywood - but while rush hour series is good, I think three is a step down and also Shanghai Noon and Knights are far better.

Don't compare to police story, meals on wheels etc but Shanghai is so good!

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Agamemnon420XD t1_jacrgeb wrote

Good for you. I didn’t cry but I almost did. It was an extremely touching movie.

I tell people, Whale is like Black Swan, except far more relatable, because instead of being about a person striving for perfection, it’s just about a person, a failure, trying to accomplish at least one thing good for the world before dying, and about how humans care about each other so deeply.

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